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Old 8th Jun 2008, 06:06
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They'd have to be subsidised by SIA wouldn't they? It will give them the opportunity to operate over the Pacific I'd imagine.
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Old 8th Jun 2008, 08:08
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Why don't they ALL just put up their fares 10%?
They will. And I'd bet my house on it starting to happen in the next few months.

The airlines are just circling around at the moment, trying not to be the first to make the move, but once one of them does, the others will surely follow after a respectable period of oh, say, 3 or 4 days.
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Old 8th Jun 2008, 10:57
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Hey EWL, are you saying you have to deposit 5 gorillas with them, then they'll let you have a "line of credit" with your own money? Sounds like a debit account to me!!! Wonder if they'r registered as a bank here?
Also sounds like a good way to subsidise costs with the interest.........
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Old 8th Jun 2008, 11:23
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Indeed Porchasaurus.

It would seem the best way I have ever heard of to get your yellow and black paws on unsecured interest free cash flow.

Call me cautious, but they can blow their partial airline up their fundemental. I aint playing.

As we are a licenced and Travel Compensation Fund approved Agency, we have a $10,000 line of credit with DJ, and often turn over in excess of $100,000 a week through IATA/BSP - but this upstart wants our money up front despite selling near half a million a year on one of their parent companies. Then take onboard the restrictive Credit Card rules. They are just too much work.

This little black duck is not playing, and they will not be mentioned in our office - why bothyer if they want to make themselves inaccesable.

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Old 8th Jun 2008, 11:52
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Tiger do not make themselves easily accessable to the lower socio economic groups, as
I agree with your sentiment and would extend it to the middle classes who have credit cards. Tiger seem to have done Jetstar a favour by positioning themselves below Jetstar and hence making Jetstar and Virgin look more reasonable.

How Tiger position themselves on their Website make them look less appealing than other LCCs. Several statements on their website could be annoying to someone who isn't paying the lowest possible fare (ie the fares they need to sell to make a profit) and seem aimed to make you pay extra or put up with unneccesary inconvenience.

Examples are:

* Seat pitch of 29 inch versus 30 on J* or 30/31 on Virgin (so they can get a few rows of premium seats (I'm not sure how many people willing to pay the premium would choose them over QF economy).
* Suggesting on their website that families who want to sit together should buy seat select. Virgin, Jetstar (and Freedom) all usually put famlies together for free. To me keeping families together is sensible for the family (they are buying multiple seats so good revenue potential), other passengers and the cabin crew.
* 45 min checkin close off time -
* From recollection (can't see it on their website anymore) not allowing you to bring your own food on board, while having a limited buy on board menu (can't see a menu on their website so even if they do the lack of info on the website works against them). Hardly appealing when combined with the 45 min checkin or the idea of travelling with children who travel best on healthy food and not BOB junk food.

All up a list of things which are annoying to customers who are prepared to pay a small premium to avoid some stress and in short a list of things which would annoy my wife to the point she would pay extra for Virgin or even Jetstar.

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Old 8th Jun 2008, 13:14
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Hello Rodney Rude!

I agree buddy. The merchants of doom always like to stick the boot in.
I hope that all the airlines in OZ prosper and that they can't get enough Pilots.
Hey Slacky Pants send us your new Email address. I'm off to Melbourne next week so give us a call.
I'm off to the A330 next month. Your notes will come in handy thanks mate!
How are the T&C's at Tiger. Still**** I hear is working hard at J*. My other mate is clearing $12,000 OZ a month as a Captain but working F*******G hard.
Say hi to to the family.
Cheers
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Old 8th Jun 2008, 13:26
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All I Know is..

Most nights I pass Go-Kat! (a cereal wot I feed my feline) over Timor. When I leave DRW with abt 15 tonnes fuel, 155 pax in A320, I'm FKD if I can get to FL320. They go over me @ 380. Do the sumz - about 20 pax.

Not sustainable, moreover a waste of aussie talent!
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Old 9th Jun 2008, 01:07
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Dammit Keg, there you go again.

Wrecking another perfectly good "pilots union is the evil scourge of all humanity" story with ill-timed facts!

Shame on you.
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Old 11th Jun 2008, 10:42
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Today they can the MEL - NTL route, yet yesterday their CEO said;

Speaking today, Tiger Airways CEO, Tony Davis said:

“The price of fuel is the canary in the mine that has simply highlighted the lack of cost discipline of our competitors. Tiger Airways is clearly now the undisputed low fare leader in Australia and we are determined to give even more Australians access to genuine low fares.

Whilst other airlines are busy increasing fuel surcharges, cutting routes and scrambling to reduce wasteful expenditure, Tiger is busy, simply providing the lowest fares and best value for money across Australia. We are also keen to use our Australian based aircraft and crews to mount international services to fill the gaps left by Qantas/Jetstar as soon as we can convince the Australian government to allow Tiger Airways Australia access to these routes.

Do yourself a favour Australia– don’t pay for the mistakes of the other airlines.

Perhaps people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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