QF tailpipe fire ex-SIN
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Not a recall checklist? No cockpit indications?? unlicensed engineers doing the pushback?
Those holes in the cheese are lining up folks, unfortunately only a question of time.
Those holes in the cheese are lining up folks, unfortunately only a question of time.
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Engine was given full fuel at 8% N3 on start ECC suspected fault, start is all auto on these just like starting an APU so none of the people involved would be at fault.
Looks like it's down to MR airbus again.
Looks like it's down to MR airbus again.
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In my many decades of day & night engine runs with new donks,
NEVER have I seen one do that!
Unless there was a fuel metering or air flow problem...
Anyone else?
PS
In my many decades of day & night engine runs with new donks,
NEVER have I seen one do that!
Unless there was a fuel metering or air flow problem...
Anyone else?
PS
The engineers of a now defunct blue tail airline in MEL used to have this down to a fine art. First one I ever saw was a 76, and while I was about to start taking appropriate steps (really big ones) I found all the old hands nodding appreciatively!
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Some of the passengers rushed to the exit nearby, the airhostess there stood like a rock and said, “No, don’t open. You can’t.”
As some of us began rushing to the front exit, various thoughts ran across one’s mind.
What about my passport in the hand bag? What about my baggage? What about the money I had in the bag?
“To hell, let’s get out first,” I thought.
But we were stopped and the firm and strict voices of the crew held us back.
“Don’t run to exits. Please go back to your seats. Nothing to worry,” they shouted.
Well done cabin crew, Excel awards might be appropriate.
Captain Steve McMann later said the fire was due to some staff leaving a bit of fuel in the engine.
The media really loves technical details like that, lol.
As some of us began rushing to the front exit, various thoughts ran across one’s mind.
What about my passport in the hand bag? What about my baggage? What about the money I had in the bag?
“To hell, let’s get out first,” I thought.
But we were stopped and the firm and strict voices of the crew held us back.
“Don’t run to exits. Please go back to your seats. Nothing to worry,” they shouted.
Well done cabin crew, Excel awards might be appropriate.Captain Steve McMann later said the fire was due to some staff leaving a bit of fuel in the engine.
The media really loves technical details like that, lol.
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Mr Fixit, what you said is kind of dangerous. If you do not know what is going on, please do not spread rumors that pushbacks in Singapore is done by unlicensed engineers. As far as I know, CAAS will never let that happen.
In my opinion I think its just an engine backfire?
In my opinion I think its just an engine backfire?
Engine Backfire
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9v-SKA, what you said is kind of dangerous. If you do not know what is going on, please do not spread rumours that push backs in Singapore is done by unlicensed engineers. As far as I know, CAAS will never let that happen.
In my opinion I think its just an engine backfire?
In my opinion I think its just an engine backfire?
The guys from SIA Engineering Company whom do the push backs on customer aircraft are NOT licensed. Guaranteed
Many do not even hold a trade, they are called technicians.
But there would be many young LAMEs/LAE whom have never experienced a tail pipe fire and may react the same as the SIA tech during the QPA push back. As few guys in their 20s would have ever worked on the older P/W engines where a tail pipe fire was not unexpected.
Experience counts in a situation like this not the licenses you hold
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Wow for it to not only fly back fixed but to be fully serviceable is amazing. I heard the Flaps were stuffed, the strut was cooked, plus the engine change.
Is it really back in service?
Is it really back in service?
Nunc est bibendum
Yes Syd Eng, back in service. Each Wednesday Flight Ops publish a one page burst called 'on deck'. It has a write up in there about it. I'm not going to publish it here- company in confidence probably- but suffice to say that the damage wasn't that significant. There wasn't even an engine change. It was after all a tailpipe fire in an area that is quite used to hot temperatures!