Merged: Ozjet aborts trans-Tasman plan due takeover bid!?
And that flight couldn't carry any QF passengers
As I understand the codeshare arrangement to/from NLK - Norfolk Air is not involved.
The codeshare arrangement is between QF & OJ not QF and Norfolk Air. Norfolk Air charter aircraft to operate to from NLK, so it follows if OJ don't operate then QF passengers are always at risk of not travelling.
It needs to be remembered Norfolk Air is not an airline - it just looks like one.
The codeshare arrangement is between QF & OJ not QF and Norfolk Air. Norfolk Air charter aircraft to operate to from NLK, so it follows if OJ don't operate then QF passengers are always at risk of not travelling.
It needs to be remembered Norfolk Air is not an airline - it just looks like one.
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As it was explained to me: “Our Airline” hadn’t been through the QANTAS audit process for the AUS – Norfolk routes as had Ozjet, (which apparently has the codeshare with QANTAS).
Hence no QANTAS ticketed passengers travelled on the substitution.
I don’t think anyone is suggesting that it was intentional, just something that was sadly overlooked.
All the same, the ON substitution impacted on the RPT service (and more than once).
As it was explained to me: “Our Airline” hadn’t been through the QANTAS audit process for the AUS – Norfolk routes as had Ozjet, (which apparently has the codeshare with QANTAS).
Hence no QANTAS ticketed passengers travelled on the substitution.
I don’t think anyone is suggesting that it was intentional, just something that was sadly overlooked.
All the same, the ON substitution impacted on the RPT service (and more than once).
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Looks like OA and Norfolk ties the knot. At least for a while.
http://www.pacificmagazine.net/news/...norfolk-island
http://www.etravelblackboard.com/sho...id=78352&nav=2
http://www.pacificmagazine.net/news/...norfolk-island
http://www.etravelblackboard.com/sho...id=78352&nav=2
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Come on lads the Otter was great no gear handle like the B727 and you get to look around.
Ralph the Bong = OZ has no intention of competing with NLK/OA Airlines. OZ/HVY will push them off the Island before / from next June when NLK AIR start with Air Nauru mach 2 ( Our Airline ). With fuel at these prices Our Airline will probably have the B737-300 repoed before they get to start next June ?
The 727F is going thru Norfolk bi weekly shortly as HVY/OZ Jet Cargo ?
Ralph the Bong = OZ has no intention of competing with NLK/OA Airlines. OZ/HVY will push them off the Island before / from next June when NLK AIR start with Air Nauru mach 2 ( Our Airline ). With fuel at these prices Our Airline will probably have the B737-300 repoed before they get to start next June ?
The 727F is going thru Norfolk bi weekly shortly as HVY/OZ Jet Cargo ?
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Quote from the Aviation Record
Wilson said the agreement (with our airline)capped off a great year for Norfolk Air, which operates three services a week to Sydney and Brisbane, single flights to Newcastle and Melbourne, and is to start a second Melbourne flight on September 1 and a new Gold Coast service from October 2.
“Not only have we added new gateways but we’ve been able to improve our year round load factor and yield, and are on line for a second profit in as many years despite record fuel costs.”
So if the last year was such a great one, and Norfolk Air is in line for a second year of profit (BOTH YEARS WITH OZJET BY THE WAY) one needs to ask....why are you breaking up a winning partnership/contract?
Wilson said the agreement (with our airline)capped off a great year for Norfolk Air, which operates three services a week to Sydney and Brisbane, single flights to Newcastle and Melbourne, and is to start a second Melbourne flight on September 1 and a new Gold Coast service from October 2.
“Not only have we added new gateways but we’ve been able to improve our year round load factor and yield, and are on line for a second profit in as many years despite record fuel costs.”
So if the last year was such a great one, and Norfolk Air is in line for a second year of profit (BOTH YEARS WITH OZJET BY THE WAY) one needs to ask....why are you breaking up a winning partnership/contract?
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and some more of the quote which might go towards answering that last question:-
“This is excellent news because we will be getting a newer generation airline that will not only reduce our fuel bill considerably but give us extra reach and capacity,” Mr Wilson added.
“This is excellent news because we will be getting a newer generation airline that will not only reduce our fuel bill considerably but give us extra reach and capacity,” Mr Wilson added.
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“This is excellent news because we will be getting a newer generation airline that will not only reduce our fuel bill considerably but give us extra reach and capacity,” Mr Wilson added
That quote has nought to do with it, everyone on the Island knows that the current contract required Ozjet to have an ETOPS style aircraft for Norfolk by the end of this year. Was told it was to be a 300 series just the same as Our Airlines.
Just spin for the media.
“This is excellent news because we will be getting a newer generation airline that will not only reduce our fuel bill considerably but give us extra reach and capacity,” Mr Wilson added
That quote has nought to do with it, everyone on the Island knows that the current contract required Ozjet to have an ETOPS style aircraft for Norfolk by the end of this year. Was told it was to be a 300 series just the same as Our Airlines.
Just spin for the media.
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Gone were the days when Air Nauru leased aircraft. Our Airline is a totally new concept and an aircraft wholly owned by the people. "Repoed...?" Nah...never again. Small player in the region but most efficient. Most relaxed and friendly bunch to work with in the charter business. All they need is an addition to their lone fleet. Good luck.
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OZJet does the dirty
Regarding the charter flt to NZ for Norfolk Air for the country music fest, A good source tells me that OZJet at the last minute tried to increase the charter price to Norfolk Air. NA decided to get OA to help them out as it was a charter there were no QF pax so no down side. According to the pax the flt was great, unfortunately OA went tech for 48 hours and then OZ flatly refused to oeprate the charter- missing out on the $$$ and left their a/c on the ground -pax got home with OA 24 hours late- having a party on the island & in AKL.
This guy Leach must be made of money if he can refuse business.
Funny though you would imagine with the amount of debt OZ owes they would be keen for whatever business they could get
This guy Leach must be made of money if he can refuse business.
Funny though you would imagine with the amount of debt OZ owes they would be keen for whatever business they could get
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Heavy Lift OZjet management vs NA/OA management
Interested in your comments.
Certainly alot of good and bad said about wilson, but latest results speak for themselves and let's face it wilson and bradfield at OA could work well anyway rumours are if you read the Australian NA is recruiting a new CEO. My money is on NA and OA hands down over heavy lift- at least when it comes to scruples and money anyway. NA and OA are backed by governemnt. Leach is so dodgey he can't even get an australian AOC and I know a few people who are screaming out that OZ and HL haven't paid their bills while NA is reporting profits. Imagine what they can do with a more efficient airplane.
HL maybe onto something with freight to NOU but have rocks in their head if they think they can make $$$ on freight out of Norfolk- it is all one way. NA doens't export anything.
Just looking at OZ recently APNG dumped them, NA have given noticed all it would take now is for OZ to loss runs to Solomon's and I'd be astounished is OZ survived and unlike Stoddard, Leach has no little backing
Certainly alot of good and bad said about wilson, but latest results speak for themselves and let's face it wilson and bradfield at OA could work well anyway rumours are if you read the Australian NA is recruiting a new CEO. My money is on NA and OA hands down over heavy lift- at least when it comes to scruples and money anyway. NA and OA are backed by governemnt. Leach is so dodgey he can't even get an australian AOC and I know a few people who are screaming out that OZ and HL haven't paid their bills while NA is reporting profits. Imagine what they can do with a more efficient airplane.
HL maybe onto something with freight to NOU but have rocks in their head if they think they can make $$$ on freight out of Norfolk- it is all one way. NA doens't export anything.
Just looking at OZ recently APNG dumped them, NA have given noticed all it would take now is for OZ to loss runs to Solomon's and I'd be astounished is OZ survived and unlike Stoddard, Leach has no little backing
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Seems to me that when an operation is doing well, everyone wants a piece of the pie. This includes folks involved with OA in it's former life. I hope the tiny governments of Nauru and Norfolk keep their wits about them and handle this in the best interests of their peoples and companys. It only takes a sweet talking individual(s) from within or without to screw it all up.
One thing is for sure. The operation must be doing okay for most if not all parties to attract filth.
One thing is for sure. The operation must be doing okay for most if not all parties to attract filth.
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Nlk Cargo
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Mate if you knew anything about cargo and operating planes go figure this out.
HVY have an agreement with Emirates to bring French ( Paris ) cargo to BNE ?
HVY 727 picks up and takes to Noumea plus Australia to Nou freight ? FOLLOWING SO FAR ? So you take 8 pallets 16,000kgs to Noumea. OK !
Then if you look on a map you will see it is not very far out of the way to come back via Norfolk? You have carried 4 pallets to NOU ( NLK Bound ) and 8 to NOU which get off ? You then drop the 4 pallets off on the way home at NLK upto 8000kgs.
So all import freight to NOU and NLK. The NLK freight costs HVY only the sector NOU NLK approx 1 hours flying for 8000kgs of cargo.
Looks sound to me ????
Mate if you knew anything about cargo and operating planes go figure this out.
HVY have an agreement with Emirates to bring French ( Paris ) cargo to BNE ?
HVY 727 picks up and takes to Noumea plus Australia to Nou freight ? FOLLOWING SO FAR ? So you take 8 pallets 16,000kgs to Noumea. OK !
Then if you look on a map you will see it is not very far out of the way to come back via Norfolk? You have carried 4 pallets to NOU ( NLK Bound ) and 8 to NOU which get off ? You then drop the 4 pallets off on the way home at NLK upto 8000kgs.
So all import freight to NOU and NLK. The NLK freight costs HVY only the sector NOU NLK approx 1 hours flying for 8000kgs of cargo.
Looks sound to me ????
HC, cargo operation looks sound to me too. But the Norfolk passenger business has always been marginal and driven by Island politics. Ozjet's new owners could still get burned. The citizens of Norfolk could also get burned. History ever since the days of the humble King Air services, through the F27's and F28's, 146's etc indicates that operators go broke on that run with monotonous regularity. Bali it ain't (and they go broke there too).
