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Old 26th Feb 2008, 19:50
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Jetstar leasing 8 extra A320s?

I've just read on a Dutch aviation site that Jetstar will lease 8 A320s from BOC leasing. Delivery end 2010 to 2011. Can't see anything on PPrune or Jetstar news? Good to hear more expansion is happening if it's true.
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Yeah, Great. If you live in Singapore.


Qantas inks deal to lease eight planes from BOC

Qantas Airways (Sydney) has agreed to lease another eight (8) Airbus A320 aircraft from BOC Aviation. The aircraft will be delivered between the third quarter of 2010 and the first quarter of 2011 to Jetstar, Qantas’ low-cost Singapore-based subsidiary. Qantas already leases three (3) A320s from BOC Aviation.
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Old 26th Feb 2008, 22:19
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I'd say that this is more likely going to be for JQ than 3K because 3K just can't get it together. Three of their aircraft are currently sub-leased to JQ, so I wouldn't imagine that they would go about leasing more aircraft. Looks to me like a journo didn't check their facts right, but hey i could be wrong.
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Maybe.

I do know that 30 of the A320's in that order for 68, are going to Vietnam, so it is possible that they are trying to build up the Asian arm.
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Old 27th Feb 2008, 05:06
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As I understand it Pacific Airlines only have 3 or 4 classics, so 30 A320s would be an incredible amount of growth... (Mind you, I have no reason to doubt you Henry).

Does anyone know the actual breakdown of Jetstar orders? JQ 3K & PA???

Assuming these 8 leases go to Singapore, the 30 go to Vietnam and the rest go to Jetstar Aus: That leaves 38 of the 68 ordered recently plus the other 9 that were ordered previously... for a total of 47 new narrowbodies for Aus???

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Gday For sure.

They have 9 737's at the moment. My info comes second (or maybe third) hand from a QF secondee to Pacific airlines. 30 A320's by 2011. If all goes as I have been told, Not too many will actually make it to Austraila.

But as I say it's all second hand from a QF bloke.

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Old 27th Feb 2008, 14:53
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Pacific 737

Pacific only have 4x 737-400 and one one the way makes 5 total.
But more A320s on the way later this year when J* can find some.
J* have sourced 3xA321s ex American Airlines which needs major mods b4 going into service. That's how desperate they are !
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Ok. I stand corrected. 4 737's.
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Old 27th Feb 2008, 23:39
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Mmmm, 10 A320s a year for the next 3 years ( or 7.5 for 4 years ), anyone else reckon thats a little ambitious
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J* have sourced 3xA321s ex American Airlines which needs major mods b4 going into service
AA don't operate the A321 series aircraft...
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Old 27th Feb 2008, 23:58
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The 321s JQ are operating are from Spirit Airlines in the US. They are currently bulk loaded. Jq is modifying them so they can hold containers. They will initially enter service bulk loaded and be modified about 3 months latter when the kits becom avaliable.
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Guys,

I dont think Pacific are getting 30 A320's..at last report I think it sits somewhere between 12-15 over the next 3-4 years and that includes replacement of the existing 737 aircraft. But like anything if it booms and is more beneficial than Aus then I guess they will get the planes.

There are a few slotted for 3K as things are expected to pick up over next few years, with more than half of course (along with A321) being for Aus Dom, Short-mid range Int (Oz to Asia & trans tas) and possibly NZ Dom (saw something mentioned in media about that last week.

Yep appears the 321's (first 3 at least) are from Spirit, the other 17 are new.

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Old 28th Feb 2008, 02:53
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Yep appears the 321's (first 3 at least) are from Spirit, the other 17 are new.
Strange, Spirit hasnt had these aircraft for long and only have 7 321's in the fleet. They are growing at a rapid pace so why get rid of these A321's?
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J* have sourced 3xA321s ex American Airlines which needs major mods b4 going into service. That's how desperate they are !
Thats the incorrect terminology to speak, doesnt matter if they are desperate or not

Take for an example if you take a BAe 146 out of America and to put it in service in Australia you would have to convert the C - Class bulk hold due to the fact that FAA aviation laws are completely different to that of casa and would need changing. Lead time for conversion would be 2months.

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They're 6 years old and they're cheap! Any suitable airframes Jq can get their hands on to increase capacity while awaiting for the production line models to turn up in the future.
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They're 6 years old and they're cheap!
CN: 1195, 1408, 1438 are manufactured in 00/01 and are powered by V2533-A5

You mention cheap? I dont bloody think so old chap. Everyone knows that the current aviation industry is in a boom and all types of aircraft [abeit very few 1970-1985 frames are cheap]

Even a 92 MFD A320 with 5A1 powered engines still set;s you back US$17.5million

a 1989 B737-300 ex UA bird sits at US$12million
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Even a 92 MFD A320 with 5A1 powered engines still set;s you back US$17.5million

a 1989 B737-300 ex UA bird sits at US$12million
Whats a B717 worth??
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Old 28th Feb 2008, 07:44
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J* A321's

Sorry I was misinformed, or maybe the instructor said an "American Airline"?
Anyway as well as cargo mods, they will also be fitted with an additional centre tank in the aft hold, so they can operate Perth to Singapore.
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Old 28th Feb 2008, 08:39
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Interesting comment about the centre tank. It suggests that the Perth to Singapore route will be operating before the new build A321s arrive.

So do these A321 go off the Melbourne to Queensland routes once winter sets in?
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Old 28th Feb 2008, 10:19
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Hmmm... that doesn't add up. The A321's JQ has ordered (including the 3 ex-NK models) are -200's, which have a range of up to 3000nm. Thats roughly equal to the A320-232s they currently fly, which are more than capable of operating PER-SIN with reserves and taking into consideration adverse winds. So why the need for the 'additional' centre tank? I've been under the impression that the -200s came fitted with the additional tank already, and as the aircraft said to be coming from Spirit are -200s, wouldn't the additional centre tank already be installed?

Happy to stand corrected.
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