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Old 18th Apr 2008, 20:58
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They will be. Some are also being trained (or will be trained) for the 757.
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Dreamliner or Dreamtime?

Article from today's PC.

PX to purchase new planes
AIR Niugini is to buy two of the most modern middle-range aircraft available to boost its international services.
They are the Boeing 787-800 Dreamliner aircraft, State Enterprises Minister Arthur Somare said.
The Minister, whose portfolio encompasses all the State-owned enterprises including Air Niugini, made the revelation last Friday.
Mr Somare would not reveal the cost and further details, saying that would come later.
He was speaking at the start of the inaugural direct service from Port Moresby to Australian capital, Sydney.
Boeing is manufacturing the Dreamliner at its Seattle, Washington, assembly plant.
The 800 series can carry 210 to 250 passengers on routes of 14,200 to 15,200 kilometres according to the company’s own website.
It boasts fuel consumption 20 per cent less for comparable flights than today’s similarly sized planes.
But the first of the Dreamliner planes will not be in the air for commercial flight until early next year.
Mr Somare said Air Niugini could be getting its first Dreamliner by 2010. Asked if the new planes would be leased, like many of the airline’s fleet, he said “no, we will be buying them’’.
It is believed the purchase may be done in a form of public-private partnership, possibly with Qantas, the Australian national airline which shares flights to PNG with Air Niugini.
Last Friday, Air Niugini began its twice-weekly direct flights from Moresby to Sydney, using a Brazil-made Embraer 190 aircraft leased from Brisbane-based Sky Air World.
Airline chief executive officer Wasantha Kumarasiri said the Sydney operation would also ensure extra services from Moresby to Brisbane on a daily basis.
Mr Somare told journalists on the flight that the use of the Embraer and, later, the Dreamliner, would allow the airline to be more reliable on its domestic service.
The Embraer is a twin-engined, medium range jet airliner offering a 94-seat dual class cabin.
In-flight entertainment would be available with portable videos, high resolution touch screens and a personal media player with a selection of movies, music videos, CDs and options.

Suggest 2010 is fantasy. 2 x 787 ...wow! Wonder what the business case was to support this. Good luck to them, but hope it isn't just another case of delusions of grandeur.

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I believe at least one will be purchased from Icelandair.

Was the comment regarding the IFE at the end of that quote meaning the E190 or the 787? :S


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Old 21st Apr 2008, 08:33
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Are you saying that Icelandair has got an order in for a 787 which will be ready and transferable in 2010? I'm aware Icelandair is supplying the 767 shortly, but not aware of any future arrangements.

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Icelandair certainly have an order for the 787 but i really do doubt delivery by 2010.

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Business case for 787

Lets see now.......business case for 787......a block of units in BNE, a few brown paper bags, and a couple of trips to Manila.

Bet a middle man was involved. Boeing probably have no knowledge of this order!
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Chimbu Warrior,

Think you are very close to the mark. Closely fits the pattern that has emerged over the past 12 months or so.

So reassuring to have the Somare's involved! Why else would you buy outright and not lease?

The naivety of it all!
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Whats the story with F100 recruitment? I have time on type applied to their add in the Australian a few months back and sent two updates since and have heard nothing.
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Haven't we heard this before with a gentleman named Okuk (a guy in the old East West Airlines called him the Wild Irishman!) and the Dash 7?
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Air Niugini to boost fleet with 2 Boeing Dreamliners
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NZ2,

This is just a repeat of the National article as posted above "Dreamliner or Dreamtime" #62.

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Apologies DingoMuddy.
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Hi folks, nothing adds up. Way too many planes on lease arrangements in such a short time..
One would say someone is in a hurry to make a hansome commission... thats good old PX...
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Embraer 190 Jet Receives 120-Minute ETOPS Approval

Aircraft is the first in the world to meet the new FAA certification requirements
(Sao Jose dos Campos, April 29, 2008) -- The EMBRAER 190 jet received ETOPS (Extended Operations) certification for 120 minutes, this month, from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). This third member of the E-Jets family, seating up to 114 passengers, had already obtained the same certification from Brazil's National Civil Aviation Agency (Agencia Nacional da Aviacao Civil - ANAC), in February of this year.

The ETOPS 120 rating enables the EMBRAER 190 to fly routes that have a diversion airport up to 120 minutes from the flight path. Therefore, the jet can fly long distances over oceans, deserts and other inhospitable areas, thus increasing its operational capability, everywhere in the world, especially in Southeast Asia and Oceania. This new EMBRAER 190 feature is already available on regular Air Niugini flights connecting Papua New Guinea and Australia.

In March 2007, the EMBRAER 190 obtained its first ETOPS certification, for 75 minutes. This new approval is not merely an extension of the limit existing prior to the 120 minutes, but it also involves meeting a series of more demanding requirements. The Embraer jet is the first in the world to comply with the new rules established by Appendix K, Part 25, of the FAA's regulations, showing the high quality and extensive operational capacity of the EMBRAER 190.

"We are very proud of receiving this further certification, because of its complexity and the significant contribution it makes to increasing the reliability and flexibility of the E-Jets," said Antonio Campello, Embraer Vice President, Programs - Airline Market. "ETOPS 120 minutes will help us to expand the competitive positioning of the E-Jets in such important regions as Southeast Asia and Oceania, where we offer our customers a product that provides a variety of marketplaces with comfort, efficiency, economy, and the highest quality available on the market."

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This new EMBRAER 190 feature is already available on regular Air Niugini flights connecting Papua New Guinea and Australia.
Really? I'd have thought that it was up to Sky Air World and CASA.
In any event, I'd be intrigued to know how or why it would be needed on this route.
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You are correct. The FAA approval for the airplane (E190) ETOPS operations is a different certification process.
For the Australian CASA approval process, the operator, SKy Air World would have to prove to CASA Australia for ETOPS operations.
This approval process would take up to 12 months.
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I would be surprised if the E190 operation required ETOPS.

It surely would operate between POM and either BNE or SYD within normal 60min criteria.

Maybe I am missing something?
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Last week I flew down to Sydney in the E190, and I would like to say that I was extremely impressed by the aircraft and service. The only problems with the A/C that I found from a passengers point of view, is that it has one toilet for economy passengers and no entertainment system. The waiting time to get into the toilet was about 5 minutes after about the 2nd hour due to the amout of drinks the cabin crew were serving. Good cabin service, as per usual from the girls .

As far as the 120 minutes ETOPS issue goes, it would be very handy to have if PX had a couple of these machines doing more frequent low capacity services to their existing international destinations.

Very very good aircraft .
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Old 6th May 2008, 13:08
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Won't really matter with the demise of ETOPS upon us.

Sleek looking jet.
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PX’s new Boeing 767
AIR NIUGINI last Friday took delivery of its new flagship, a Boeing 767-300 wide-body aircraft with a seating capacity of 214.
The aircraft, in full Air Niugini motif, will be used on the airline’s Asian routes of Singapore, Manila, Hong Kong and Narita from Port Moresby.
It will also serve the Port Moresby to Brisbane and Port Moresby to Sydney routes.
The plane was secured under a wet engineering lease arrangement with Icelandic Air and it will be operated by Air Niugini’s pilots and cabin crew on the specified routes.
Independent Public Business Corp (IPBC) board chairman Sumasy Singin, who officiated at the arrival of the aircraft before invited guests and dignitaries, commended the airline company’s board and management for securing the aircraft.
“The international market for wide-body aircraft is very tough and Air Niugini board and management are to be complemented for securing this aircraft through Icelandic Air.
“Our international passenger number has increased and with the intended demand from resource projects, this aircraft will be a valuable asset to Air Niugini and PNG as a nation,” he said.
According to Air Niugini, the new B767-300 flagship offers 30 business class and 184 economy class seats with greater seat pitch in both cabins which means there is more leg room for passengers.
The aircraft is powered by two Pratt & Whitney 4000 engines, has a maximum take off weight of 181,436kg and 144.7 cubic metres of cargo capacity, which will also provide adequate cargo movement.
This aircraft replaces a previously leased Airbus A310 wide-body aircraft from White Airways, which was both flown by White Airways’ own pilots and cabin crew, and was also maintained by the same company.
The Airbus A310 has since been returned.
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