The SYD Curfew
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Sydney Curfew
It is about time that the Sydney LTOP was revised, hopefully to the point of disbandment. It must be costing the industry a fortune and must be placing considerable unnecessary stresses on airline pilots, engineers, cabin crew, passengers, refuellers, ATCs and the other myriad of professionals involved with the movement of an aircraft. Perhaps the new government might show some common sense and sensible courage and tell the absolute minority of citizens who complain about aircraft noise to shove it. In a city of over 3 million, who really cares what 100,000 whingers think?
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..........couldn't agree with you more there 'mirage3' but remember 'the squeeky door gets all the attention' !!!.............just getting that 'squeek' to stop without having to resort to shear madness that we have now is the issue
Also good point as to how many whinging residents own noisy trail bikes & disturb many others ??? I know I live on 15 acres & would love to let down all the tyres of the arrogant trail bike riders screaming past my front gate almost everyday, no matter what time!...common denominator here....... he who has the biggest voice/influence over the weakest pollies!(which is all of 'em anyway!)
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Also good point as to how many whinging residents own noisy trail bikes & disturb many others ??? I know I live on 15 acres & would love to let down all the tyres of the arrogant trail bike riders screaming past my front gate almost everyday, no matter what time!...common denominator here....... he who has the biggest voice/influence over the weakest pollies!(which is all of 'em anyway!)
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So what does Greenpeace and the like say about all the wasted fuel and resulting CO2 into the atmosphere; surely they have a little experience of lobbying and getting issues into the mainstream. I'm sure they have an interest in such things. Whilst they are probably anti aircraft full stop; making sure those that do fly do so efficiently should be a priority.
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In the EK case of the 31st dispensation was asked for (of the DOTARS boys in CBR) and it was refused. They would not consider a dispensation request until the aircraft had left MEL, so you have to depart not knowing if you can get one, they also would not then consider dispensation as the ETA was 2259. A couple of QF tails made it in before EK and it was vectored and lost 2 minutes, request to CBR then made and then rejected. They have had their hands severly tied by a few bonehead pollies and have no flex in their decision making at all - this is no way to run THE major Australian gateway. Neither would these guys consider a dispensation for the departure to DXB until the aircraft was on the way even though they knew at about 2030 what the situation was likely to be but were happy to sting the airline along with a few "maybe's". Apparently weather is not considered to be outside the airlines control as it can make suitible arrangements?!?!?!. All this did was inconvenience 500 pax and cost the airline a motsa. Crazy behaviour!
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Perhaps the new government might show some common sense and sensible courage and tell the absolute minority of citizens who complain about aircraft noise to shove it. In a city of over 3 million, who really cares what 100,000 whingers think?
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oh so right Jenna
the only time a revision might get a run is if there is a late night sitting and some pollie doesn't make his CBR connex flt and therefore numbers don't stack when the division bells stop ringing in the house.
Given however the State/Fed ALP alliance and the good Minister's parochial (and other) ties to the electorate around SYD, I would imagine CNS would freeze over first before the pollies would even think about making a move on the curfew.
An alternative remedy may of course arise if a QF with the Minister for Struggle Street (SYD audiences will know who) aboard is denied a dispensation and said jock misses the landing that night and consequently the 'other' air slot the next morning..........and Laws returns to do a casual shift filling in for him ............in which case SYD would be declared a 24/7 operation and Mac AP shares would treble overnight (pardon the pun)
...and I thought flying was above politics......!!!!!!
the only time a revision might get a run is if there is a late night sitting and some pollie doesn't make his CBR connex flt and therefore numbers don't stack when the division bells stop ringing in the house.
Given however the State/Fed ALP alliance and the good Minister's parochial (and other) ties to the electorate around SYD, I would imagine CNS would freeze over first before the pollies would even think about making a move on the curfew.
An alternative remedy may of course arise if a QF with the Minister for Struggle Street (SYD audiences will know who) aboard is denied a dispensation and said jock misses the landing that night and consequently the 'other' air slot the next morning..........and Laws returns to do a casual shift filling in for him ............in which case SYD would be declared a 24/7 operation and Mac AP shares would treble overnight (pardon the pun)
...and I thought flying was above politics......!!!!!!
