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Old 19th Jan 2008, 00:08
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THE battle for Western Australia's skies intensified last night as Virgin Blue signed a strategic code share agreement with rapidly expanding local airline Skywest.

The Virgin partnership came as QantasLink this week announced a relationship with Brisbane-based Alliance Airlines to take advantage of the resource-rich state's rapid growth in air travel.

The move significantly increases Virgin's footprint in regional Western Australia and gives its passengers seamless access to a network that will now include Port Hedland, Kalgoorlie-Boulder and Kununurra while providing additional flights between Perth and Broome.

It allows travellers from February 4 to buy Virgin Blue fares to Perth and connect seamlessly to Skywest flights, while Skywest passengers can do the same in the opposite direction.

Travellers on both carriers will now be able to check luggage through to their final destination and tickets on all codeshare flights will be eligible to earn Velocity frequent flyer points.

Skywest, which only two years ago had three under-utilised 100-seat Fokker 100s operating just five hours a day, will take delivery of its sixth and seventh Fokker 100s in the next eight weeks and all are almost fully committed to regular public transport or resources industry fly-in/fly-out contracts.

At the same time, the airline has added two more 46-seat Fokker 50s for a fleet total of seven.

Virgin Blue chief executive Brett Godfrey said the airlines already worked together through Skywest's participation in the Velocity program.

"The codeshare agreement is a strengthening of co-operation between our two airlines," Mr Godfrey said.

"Increasing our codeshare partnerships is part of Virgin Blue's New World Carrier strategy to give especially corporate travellers more benefits and more options through an enhanced network to our guests."

Skywest chief executive Paul Daff said the codeshare opened up seamless travel between Sydney or Melbourne and some of Western Australia's premier destinations.

He said the airline hoped to further grow the east coast market and to build exposure to Skywest's WA destinations.

Alliance, which has established a base in Perth, has snared a daily Perth-Karratha and Perth-Port Hedland service with a Fokker 100. The aircraft will be in addition to the two F-100s Alliance has in Perth for resource industry contract work and will be painted in QantasLink livery.

The Qantas Group currently operates 19 return services per week between Perth and Port Hedland and 35 return services a week between Perth and Karratha.

The decision appears to be a blow to National Jet Systems, which operates 11 Boeing 717s for QantasLink and was negotiating with Qantas to bring another online.

But Qantas general manager regional airlines Narendra Kumar rejected any suggestion the Alliance decision reflected any deterioration of the relationship.

"The F100 is providing supplementary capacity for QantasLink due to strong demand in WA," Mr Kumar said.

"We retain a strong and growing relationship with NJS.

"In March 2007, QantasLink extended its 15-year relationship with NJS, adding three B717s to the existing fleet of eight and extending the contract to 2013.

"The use of these aircraft precluded NJS from introducing additional aircraft in the timeframe we requested."

NJS did have spare BAe146 capacity after losing a daily fly-in/fly-out contract with Newcrest Mining but it appears to have turned its back on the type after operating a sizeable fleet with NJS throughout the 1990s.

This situation poses a dilemma for NJS, which is faced with increased competition from Alliance and Skywest with more modern Fokker 100s and Virgin Blue's Embraer jets.

Until recently the four-engine BAe146 had a significant advantage over other jets because of its performance into many of the typically shorter mine-site runways.

However, a number of key resource companies are extending runways to accommodate larger jets such as the Boeing 737-800 and Airbus A320, thus negating the BAe146's advantage - particularly in summer with temperatures regularly topping 45C.
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Old 19th Jan 2008, 02:06
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You know, I could cope with all the NJS bleating a few years back. Everyone knows they are a pack of currants but given the industry today why don't you lot just leave?
There really is life after NJS. The dozy NJS haze will lift off your shoulders as soon as you walk away from that circus!

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Old 19th Jan 2008, 09:48
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from NJS website
"National Jet is the only aircraft operator outside the Qantas group entrusted with the Qantas brand and standards.."


What about JIT CUNNICT?
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Old 19th Jan 2008, 11:08
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Jet Connect is owned by Qantas isn't it? So not outside the Qantas group.
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Old 19th Jan 2008, 20:18
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This arrangement isn't something entirely new to either QF or QQ. QQ have operated QF code share flights previously, and QF have provided load control/ground support etc.

What I find most interesting is, that a certain CEO's worst night mare has happened!

There was a certain document kicking around last year naming QQ as the highest threat to a certain contract ergo terms and conditions for all crew yaddy yaddy yaddy ...

... an interesting manifestation of someones worst nightmare, or a case of keep your friends close but your enemies even closer?
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Old 20th Jan 2008, 08:48
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What a sad state of affairs: I paxed out of ADL a couple of days ago and saw 3 717s parked, in Qantaslink colours, doing nothing.
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What a sad state of affairs: I paxed out of ADL a couple of days ago and saw 3 717s parked, in Qantaslink colours, doing nothing
They could be in maintenance......
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They could be being readied, to head East, to take on the Jungle Jets!
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Been sitting there a while now, some missing 1 or both engines, hardly ready from what I can see. Wonder why they go to waste like this.
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What a sad state of affairs: I paxed out of ADL a couple of days ago and saw 3 717s parked, in Qantaslink colours, doing nothing
is bloggsy going to shed a tear when he sees the dirty little fokker with the rat on the tail?
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One of those three "C" will be departing Adelaide for flying duties VERY soon.
The other two will be in flying order before long as well.
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But who is going to fly them?
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But who is going to fly them?
One would have thought pilots
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are these 3 additional to the 11 they already have in service or broken machines coming back into the fleet...
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Not broken, they have used different aircraft out of the total 14 depending on the lease status.
Today there are 11 in service with another 3 in Adelaide. Soon to be 2.

There is no shortage of pilots applying for positions and to date only a few have left.
A few have applied, accepted and then been offered better positions some where else.
If some pilots did leave conditions may improve. Until pilots stop accepting jobs they are not happy with, then not much will change. Simple
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Renurpp,
I sure wish I could share your optimism. 85-90 rostered hours a month for the last 2 months. Captains flying together, and pilots being badgered to come in days off to cover for sickness due lack of reserve.

I'm not seeing the results of anybody accepting or applying for jobs.
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90 rostered hours a month? Not bad, where do i get a job like that?
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Renurpp,
I sure wish I could share your optimism. 85-90 rostered hours a month for the last 2 months. Captains flying together, and pilots being badgered to come in days off to cover for sickness due lack of reserve.

I'm not seeing the results of anybody accepting or applying for jobs.
Do you remember our PM of around 12 months ago when you were thinking about NJS???"
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Sure Do,
And with todays envoironment I don't believe there's the interest/influx of people into NJS there was 12/ even 6 months ago, even though Adelaide would have one believe otherwise.

Especially with such a shortage of available crew as mentioned.

RC

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There is no shortage of guys applying for the jobs. Whilst mobs like REX, Skippers, Air North, ****** and the like have pilots, NJS and the other larger operators will get applications.

Its the piston and turbo prop operators that are and will struggle to attract pilots.

have a look at see how many are at Alteon at present and you will get the picture, they want jet jobs just like you did and will take those jobs on crap money, no offence intended but, just like you did.
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