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Old 11th Jan 2008, 13:24
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From news.com.au

"From the cockpit, the expanse of the continent took my breath away," Mr Garrett said.

How come he was allowed into the cockpit?

It's not fair!
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Old 11th Jan 2008, 18:21
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Great thread guys. Please keep the info coming. Sounds like a great job.

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Approx 4.5 hours one way so:

What is the endurance of the A319 and what reserves and alternates is the flight predicated upon?

The ETOPS alternates are?

What ETOPS range is the flight allowed to operate to?

Is refuelling undertaken at the Antarctic base and if so where/how is the fuel delivered?

If fuelling is undertaken down there, the environmental implications of fuel spillage are serious and what preventative measures has `Gunboat Garbag’ Garrett ensured are undertaken?

Considering the fuel capabilities of the aircraft how far can the aircraft divert from the planned route for whale watching/hunter spotting duties?

And how much effective loiter time is available `on whale watchers’ station?

It is noted neither of the last two points have been addressed in the hype surrounding this supposed first flight.

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http://www.skytraders.com.au/news.html
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Serious question - ETOPS

Seriously, how is the ETOPS issue addressed?

Is there a legal instrument? How does it work? What is the legal limitation?

Just curious.

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Yawn,

The ETOP (EDTO in Aus now) is covered in CAO 82.0 and Yes there is an instrument. There is also a polar operational approval required from the middle of the year although you would think these guys would walk that in given the experience and the fact they do it all the time.

From what I understand Skytraders are approved to conduct EDTO operations.

CASA also announced that the operational approvals were issued earlier in the week.

I know the CP quite well although haven't been able to catch up lately as he has been working on this but believe he did the first landing on Wilkins in December and he was in left seat of the aircraft on the report in the ABC news last night.


DK

I'm sure you can figure out the first few answers to your questions based on the fact that the trip is 4.5 hours on two engines and the aircraft operates between Hobart and Wilkins. It's widely reported that the aircraft can go down and back without refueling.


As for the your last few questions, I wouldn't hold your breath on anyone telling you what the capability is for those operations. They would have to shoot you after telling you!!


Well done to the Skytraders team though.

Just found this http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/new...t=true&bbcws=2

It's a video on BBC without voiceover but has the A319 Landing and some of the C212 as well.

The Aus ABC website has a video report as well.

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Old 12th Jan 2008, 06:47
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[IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/peter/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg[/IMG] The first landing (the test flight) was 09/12/2007.


Who is the owner of this aircraft.
On the tv news the engines look like cfm-5's not the v2500.
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Old 12th Jan 2008, 08:37
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I think the aircraft is owned by the Australian Government. Initially registered as D-AVYQ, it went to Air France as F-GYAS and finally VH-VHD. Cannot confirm the engine configeration.
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I went through this A/C when it was being reconfigured at JHAS last year. It has CFM engines and has been modified to carry ULD style fuel tanks in the cargo bays. It's cabin is configured in 2 class with the front half in a business config and the rear in an economy config. I think they have upgraded the avionics on it to be similiar to the current A320 but the exact details i am not sure.
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"From the cockpit, the expanse of the continent took my breath away," Mr Garrett said.
Unfortunately, not permanently.
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Details for VH-VHD from the CASA database

The following aircraft matches your search criteria.

VH VHD

Power Driven Aeroplane with tricycle - retractable landing gear
2 Turbofan engines

Manufacturer: AIRBUS INDUSTRIE
Model: A319-115
Serial number: 1999
Aircraft first registered in Australia: 16 February 2007

Full Registration
Registration holder as of 16 February 2007

CIT AEROSPACE INTERNATIONAL

3 George's Dock IFSC
DUBLIN
REPUBLIC OF IRELAND

Registered operator as of 16 February 2007

SKYTRADERS PTY LTD

Level 8 43 Bridge Street
HURSTVILLE NSW 2220
AUSTRALIA

Verry interesting, no?
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Old 13th Jan 2008, 23:23
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What do they DO down there apart from grow beards?
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A guy I met went down there for 6 months and reckons the only usefull thing he figured out was how many seconds one has to boil a frozen (stored outside) can of beer for, to get the temp just right to drink. Money well spent. I wonder what the depress 1/3 the way home figures look like and if they carry lots of pax oxygen to stay at 15000-20000ft. Sounds like one of the more interesting jet jobs out there.
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