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As a 737NG driver, I would listen to LionAirWorld's offer. I wouldn't assume the Aus operation will have safety issues. Pilots and LAMEs here are a lot less susceptible to dangerous persuasion.
Jetstar vows to fend off Lion Air
Steve Creedy, Aviation writer | January 12, 2008
JETSTAR boss Alan Joyce is not losing any sleep over plans by Indonesia's Lion Air to start an Australian-based international carrier.
Alan Joyce says Jetstar 'won't be losing any sleep over new competition'
In fact, he believes the Qantas unit has several advantages over its new competitor. Jetstar's brand strength, reputation and first-mover advantage means it is well-placed to fend off challenges, he says.
"While it means the Australian carriers will have to be at the top of their game, we certainly won't be losing any sleep over it," Mr Joyce said yesterday.
The Indonesian carrier is setting up a joint venture with Brisbane-based SkyAirWorld that will see six Boeing 737-900ERs based in Australia and flying routes to Indonesia and other Southeast Asian destinations.
The new airline is to be called Lion Air Australia, with ownership split 51-49 per cent between SkyAirWorld and Lion Air.
It hopes to start flying later this year and eventually operate from multiple Australian ports. It is aiming to attract both business and leisure passengers, with a mix of business, premium economy and economy seats.
Lion Air plans to compete directly with Jetstar's moves to expand into Southeast Asian short-haul routes using A320s through Darwin and Perth.
And plans by Lion Air's Indonesian investor to start a joint venture in Thailand mean that four groups -- Jetstar/Qantas, Malaysia's Air Asia, Singapore's Tiger Airways and Lion Air -- are now pursuing a pan-Asian strategy involving Australia.
Mr Joyce said Jetstar expected to have aircraft based in Darwin or Perth by the end of the year.
He said Jetstar took every competitor seriously but that the Qantas Group had competed against Indonesian carriers before. "Even though (Lion Air Australia) may have an Australian air operators certificate, I think in people's minds they'll be perceived as in Indonesian carrier," he said.
"That will mean, particularly on international services, people will have choice between a Qantas group airline or an Indonesian carrier. And when(ever) that has happened in the past we've obviously done pretty well in market share. We think that will be the case here too."
Commenting on the rising number of airlines trying to establish networks across Asia, he said the experience in Europe suggested that some of the low-cost carriers now trying to establish pan-Asian operations would fail.
While he conceded there was a big population base in the region, he noted that only Ryanair and EasyJet had established pan-European networks despite a proliferation of low-cost carriers in Europe. It would be a question of who got a combination of factors right in Asia.
"It's not necessarily the lowest of low cost who will win," he said. "People want a reputation, they want a product. We're very competitive and we have the lowest cost base in Australia, but we also have that reputation behind us and financial support.
"And we have a solid four years of profitability behind us."
Lion Air comes as Tiger Airways continues to expand its Australian domestic services. This week it added Adelaide to its network and is looking for a second hub, with speculation this may be the Gold Coast.
Tiger Airways plans to launch flights to Hobart and Newcastle from next week, with services to Alice Springs and Canberra following in coming months.
...... solid four years of profitability behind us, courtesy of our parent company's infrastructure support and accounting!
JETSTAR boss Alan Joyce is not losing any sleep over plans by Indonesia's Lion Air to start an Australian-based international carrier.
Alan Joyce says Jetstar 'won't be losing any sleep over new competition'
In fact, he believes the Qantas unit has several advantages over its new competitor. Jetstar's brand strength, reputation and first-mover advantage means it is well-placed to fend off challenges, he says.
"While it means the Australian carriers will have to be at the top of their game, we certainly won't be losing any sleep over it," Mr Joyce said yesterday.
The Indonesian carrier is setting up a joint venture with Brisbane-based SkyAirWorld that will see six Boeing 737-900ERs based in Australia and flying routes to Indonesia and other Southeast Asian destinations.
The new airline is to be called Lion Air Australia, with ownership split 51-49 per cent between SkyAirWorld and Lion Air.
It hopes to start flying later this year and eventually operate from multiple Australian ports. It is aiming to attract both business and leisure passengers, with a mix of business, premium economy and economy seats.
Lion Air plans to compete directly with Jetstar's moves to expand into Southeast Asian short-haul routes using A320s through Darwin and Perth.
And plans by Lion Air's Indonesian investor to start a joint venture in Thailand mean that four groups -- Jetstar/Qantas, Malaysia's Air Asia, Singapore's Tiger Airways and Lion Air -- are now pursuing a pan-Asian strategy involving Australia.
Mr Joyce said Jetstar expected to have aircraft based in Darwin or Perth by the end of the year.
He said Jetstar took every competitor seriously but that the Qantas Group had competed against Indonesian carriers before. "Even though (Lion Air Australia) may have an Australian air operators certificate, I think in people's minds they'll be perceived as in Indonesian carrier," he said.
"That will mean, particularly on international services, people will have choice between a Qantas group airline or an Indonesian carrier. And when(ever) that has happened in the past we've obviously done pretty well in market share. We think that will be the case here too."
Commenting on the rising number of airlines trying to establish networks across Asia, he said the experience in Europe suggested that some of the low-cost carriers now trying to establish pan-Asian operations would fail.
While he conceded there was a big population base in the region, he noted that only Ryanair and EasyJet had established pan-European networks despite a proliferation of low-cost carriers in Europe. It would be a question of who got a combination of factors right in Asia.
"It's not necessarily the lowest of low cost who will win," he said. "People want a reputation, they want a product. We're very competitive and we have the lowest cost base in Australia, but we also have that reputation behind us and financial support.
"And we have a solid four years of profitability behind us."
Lion Air comes as Tiger Airways continues to expand its Australian domestic services. This week it added Adelaide to its network and is looking for a second hub, with speculation this may be the Gold Coast.
Tiger Airways plans to launch flights to Hobart and Newcastle from next week, with services to Alice Springs and Canberra following in coming months.
...... solid four years of profitability behind us, courtesy of our parent company's infrastructure support and accounting!
Put me down for a job, happy to pay for my own endorsements, meals, uniform just as long as I get the big jet job. Don't mind crappy roster that leave you fatigued.
short flights long nights
Stationair.....you need help..........................
