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Old 13th Dec 2007, 02:15
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is it true tiger oz may expand and have a base in perth
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Have not heard that one - but would be interested to hear if anyone has any news.
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They're still trying to get flights out of Cooly
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If expansion goes to plan, I am informed there will be a Perth Base in the near future.
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If should be turned into
Expansion inventiable
Perth is seen as lets say a goldmine of opportunities such as Jetstar is viewing it
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that's an interesting "word" 'inventiable' ..

did you mean inventible - capable of invention or inevitable - it's going to happen?
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Question

Anyone actually know what they're terms and conditions are? The rumour was J* plus 10-20% but I've yet to hear of firm details.
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did you mean inventible - capable of invention or inevitable - it's going to happen?

Excuse me in - ability to spell, no spell check on pprune!
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From a couple of sources I believe previously quoted base + hours + retention deal is correct, $112,000 base plus $72.00 per flying hour plus $30,000.00 bonus after 3 years.
Super paid at end of financial year based on that years gross pay.
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I hope thats for FO mate...
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Question Tiger in Darwin?

Reported in todays NT News.

DARWIN is in the running to become the second hub in Australia for Tiger Airways to base its expanding fleet.
The low-cost airline announced yesterday that huge demand from the Australian public in its first week of operations prompted the search for a second hub.
Tiger bases its Australian operations in Melbourne but is now on the hunt for an additional base to house up to five aircraft permanently.
The move would also require crews and ground support to service and maintain the aircraft.
Spokesman Matt Hobbs said Darwin would be considered because of its established links to the airline.
"Any destination that is already a part of Tiger's route network will be considered."
http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/200...52_ntnews.html
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Old 14th Dec 2007, 03:15
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From what I've heard, they are having enough trouble crewing their existing flights! Not sure if its because of crew numbers, or the people who are doing-da-crewing!!!
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No that's LHS.

Everyone can do their own sums but if you pick a figure (say 900 hours/year) and assume you'll do your 3 years then you're looking at a gross of $186,800 (equivalent $10,000 bonus per year included), tax around $64,000 leaves a net $122,800/year $10,233/month.

Throw super (9%??) on top of the gross.

Better/worse/same as J* and VB?? No idea.

And I may have to stand corrected - the hourly rate may be $73 rather than $72 - not 100% sure.
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Geez, that's only $170K for 800 hours per annum. Not paying super until the end of the year is a fair earner for the company also!
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No seriously. Thats the FO salary right?

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Yes that is what I have been told as well.

Not to mention:

Pay for car parking
Pay Own LOL
Pay for own uniform
Pay for endorsements

and the classic:

For a coffee on board ........$3.00

for a crew sandwich............$6.00

And yes they are still getting applications

So much for raising the bar
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Old 14th Dec 2007, 09:47
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Wow, paying for crew meals/beverages! That's a new low..
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Old 14th Dec 2007, 09:57
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Superannuation

I'm no expert on the matter (and I don't work for Tiger), but vaguely recall something from the Insurance and Superannuation Commission that employers were required to forward the employer contributions to the employee's nominated fund at intervals no less than quarterly. An employer cannot (as I understand it) withold contributions for longer than 3 months.

It seems more likely that they would pay 9% of base salary to the fund on a quarterly basis, and then perhaps "top it up" at the end of the year depending on gross earnings. Interestingly, employers are only required to pay 9% of base pay (in this case 9% of $112k as per the figures above), and I find it therefore somewhat surprising that an LCC would pay more than the legal minimum super contributions.
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Old 14th Dec 2007, 10:25
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Wow, paying for crew meals/beverages!
What's so novel about buying your own food? I would venture to say that 99% of workers provide for their own meals. Why couldn't or shouldn't crew take their own tucker, especially on domestic services?

You blokes are amazing. If not complaining about provided crew meals, then you complain about having to provide them. The airlines can't win.
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Old 14th Dec 2007, 12:55
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Chimbu:
How the actual payment is broken up to meet any regulatory requirements I have no idea; all I have heard is that the super paid is based on the annual gross.
Certainly would seems strange for any company to pay more than they have to; once again just what I have heard,

Keg:
Working on 800 hours a year?? Truly written like one from that dying breed - a legacy carrier lad!
You state $170,000 - of course if you add super you're up to $185,000 gross.

Most people who have commented on Tiger expect them to get their pound of flesh; 800 hours might make a QF pilot break out in a sweat however might be perceived as "luxury" for a LCC.
Suspect anticipating more like 900-950 hours per year for a Tiger driver would be more realistic.

And yes - seems there are a number of daily costs that would have to be factored in as VH-JJW mentioned.

Regardless it would be interesting for someone who really gives a sh*t to sit down, grab the agreements/awards/whatever they're called today, pick a figure (I'd suggest 900 hours as we are looking at LCC's not legacy carriers - again sorry Keg, maybe you shouldn't play this time ) but pick whatever figure you want and see what the pay would be from the 3 LCC's.
That old comparing apples with apples thing!
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