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Old 18th Nov 2007, 21:06
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Qantas looking overseas for workers (SMH)

The writing is on the wall
DG drives the wedge in deeper.
(note the warning to the Labor Gov in 2nd last paragraph)!

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/...321606761.html
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Rudd will win, workchoices gone.....I hope
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This shows the arrogance and little regard for Australians this company has when they threaten a democratically elected government (If they win).

I also find the contradiction puzzling when Dixon say's that to provide jobs growth in Australia we have to hire people offshore!!!!!!

This is on top of todays revised upward profit growth........
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I believe that as QF Engineering is about to vote on their EBA & this
would be vital news on what is happening at QF in regards to bulling
a YES votes. I do not believe Engineers are to interested in FAAA / LH
treads that they will read page after page of unrelated guff when there
are more important threads to view.

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The airline has also warned the Labor Party not to bring through any major changes to the Howard Government's Work Choices industrial relations laws if it wins the federal election this weekend.
Who the fckU does he think he is?

If the ALP are voted in it is exactly for this reason.

GD might not subscribe to democracy, but it may be about to catch up with his arrogance.
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This isn't just about cabin crew in the long run but all QF employees. Nothing wrong with a separate thread.


That said....locking in any sort of EBA will have to be carefully considered by the membership involved (cabin crew, engrs, pilots, etc). Until work choices can be changed then the ball is firmly in GDs hands unless you make sure you plug the gaps. AWAs and overseas employees are a lever.
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Members of the board were instrumental in the setting up of the IR laws that Howard bought in.From memory MJ and Darth both had a hand in the rules and obviously they know what they need to achieve their objectives.

This threat shows to me that they are worried about Labor winning.....
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Dixon's arrogance is breathtaking !

If I were Rudd this would be like a red rag to a bull .

And what is Dixon going to do if Labour sticks to it's policy ?? Take his bat and ball and run off to mum???

To add insult to injury if I were Rudd and Labour wins , I would not only abolish AWA's , I would remove all government contacts awarded to Q.F and take them elsewhere.

I hope Rudd has got the ticker to stick to his policy and not try to appease bullies like Dixon by offering a watered down one.
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There will be no wholesale changes to workchoices. Unfortunately the ALP has already stated that they will only make it more "fair". They are still saying they will scrap AWA's but I don't really believe they will.

They have flagged that common law contract of employment will overrule Awards for employees who earn more than (I think) $90,000 per annum.

The Union rights of entry will not be changed.

The registration methods for collective agreements will not be changed.

Hopefully, (for my sake considering I have to look at it at least 3 times a day) the Act will be simplified but even then there is no guarantee.

I think the threat from GD was disgusting but I think it was aimed solely at ensuring that AWA's are not abolished. From my observations of the election thus far, I think he may just get his wish.

Interestingly, with the Department of Immigration now making it virtually impossible to bring in workers on 457 visas any foreign workers will have to be based overseas. I doubt very much that he will be able to import them.
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Arrogance!

I simply cannot comprehend the arrogance of the QF board/upper management!

These people are something else, who the hell do they think they are?

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Midnight - you nearly fit in that group too, applications for moderators on this forum have closed mate, go back to being an ordinary poster. There is nothing wrong with a separate thread for this recent event.

And short circuit, could you pls check the QF LH thread before starting new topics as this was posted some time ago.
How? The article in Short Circuit's link was in the SMH today!
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This has relevance to ALL QF staff not just crew.
It is most important that this issue has its own thread whether you (dont)think so or not.
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Sorry Officer Midnight Sir, I do apologise, I will be sure to submit all my new threads to you for approval before I actually start them.

I am sure the mods here appreciate all your hard work.

Perhaps you'll find a job in QF management when you get tired of moderating here!
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Grrr Midnight

Ouch , what are those shinny things sticking into my back.
Et tu, Brute
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Midnight-63,

Because @#$@$ it was posted about six hrs earlier in the QF LH thread..
Now back under your rock
You arrogance is unbelievable!

Whilst I cannot stand Dixon I can understand why he wants to get rid of Cabin Crew like yourself.

People like yourself is why I choose not to fly QF!
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Marty Leavitt speaks

Marty Levitt was a very successful union buster in the States until he recanted, wrote a book about the tactics that big companies use and continues to speak to whoever will listen to this day.

Here are a couple of youtube videos. If you think Oldmeadow and Co don't operate from this guys textbook, you are dreaming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qajBfEdzoE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddjIJ-4y1mw
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Kapt,

That was "The Advocate" wasn't it? I read the book at Uni and was horrified (and continue to be so). During an interview for a Union position two years ago I was asked by the Secretary what I thought IR would look like in 2008.

I used that book as a guide. He didn't disagree.
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MAM will Qantas change supplier?

with the smh article re. new cabin crew company for Qantas does this mean mam will go? interesting that the last mam thread is closed for posting? gigs
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I Dont Think So

The fact that a MAM thread is closed on this forum would have absolutely nothing to do with the supply of flight attendants by MAM to Qantas. I am sure Maurice has a contractual arrangement with QF and he wouldn't be silly enough to have an agreement which allowed QF to pull the pin on him at any moment unless of course that contract expires very soon.

There is of course nothing to stop the company from placing any newly recruited flight attendants under the umbrella of a different labour hire company.
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So in this case, who should we vote for?
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Ruddley Duddley Dooright

If Pretty Boy Pixie wins, you can all bet your b**lls or your left t**ties that nothing going to change for you jet jocks and wannabes'. Old Mumbles and the Red Headed Terror just love rich silvertails like you. Don't matter you're not- it's the perception.
You can bet your bottom buck all the favours are gonna be called in by the 70% front bench, and PB Pixie ain't gonna be able to do a thing about it. Then y'all might get a bit of dutch courage and with hand in the air say "ME TOO!". And old Mumbles and the Red Headed Terror will cast a glance your way and say "you're only rich over paid bus drivers", as they recall it's been said before.
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