American Airllines pilots ask for a 53% pay rise.
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An interesting clean debate.
Aircraft said:
Maybe they can't afford not to.
The old supply and demand argument. Hell of a lot of jobs going these days. People naturally want to pay their mortgage off before they turn 60 and perhaps even go on a holiday. Experienced people will move and find places that will pay the money. So whats cheaper is the argument: low salary and constant turn over or higher salary and small turn over? I suppose right now though the issue is - what happens when you can't train as fast as they leave.
I suspect there are many hidden costs with high turnover (aside from the obvious recruiting and training). Then again I recall years ago an operator that wanted experienced crews to leave as new ones were "keener" and less likely to ask for more money. IMHO experienced happy crews are the way to go.
Aircraft said:
If the airline could afford to give pay rises then this would be a meaningful question.
The old supply and demand argument. Hell of a lot of jobs going these days. People naturally want to pay their mortgage off before they turn 60 and perhaps even go on a holiday. Experienced people will move and find places that will pay the money. So whats cheaper is the argument: low salary and constant turn over or higher salary and small turn over? I suppose right now though the issue is - what happens when you can't train as fast as they leave.
I suspect there are many hidden costs with high turnover (aside from the obvious recruiting and training). Then again I recall years ago an operator that wanted experienced crews to leave as new ones were "keener" and less likely to ask for more money. IMHO experienced happy crews are the way to go.
Last edited by Mr. Hat; 4th Nov 2007 at 06:14.
Here is the Allied Pilot's Association background brief on the pay request. Some interesting data in there, the one that struck me the most was that in the past 15 years a AA MD80 captain's salary has gone down 1% while the CEO's salary has gone up 723% This is for a company that nearly went broke!
Another interesting statistic which also applys to the QF pilots is that as American Airlines pilots are only paid per flight hour they actually spend 260 hours a month at work for 75 hours pay!!! I wonder how many other industries can get away with that!!!
http://www.apanegotiations.com/LinkC...bid=65&mid=448
Some more information:
http://www.apanegotiations.com/Quick...6/Default.aspx
Another interesting statistic which also applys to the QF pilots is that as American Airlines pilots are only paid per flight hour they actually spend 260 hours a month at work for 75 hours pay!!! I wonder how many other industries can get away with that!!!
http://www.apanegotiations.com/LinkC...bid=65&mid=448
Some more information:
http://www.apanegotiations.com/Quick...6/Default.aspx
