Virgin Blue Introduces Premium Economy
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43 inches,
where do you get your info. from?
VB premium economy is CHEAPER than the fully flexible QF economy fare and about 60% of QF business class fare, in most cases. It does offer 2 abreast seating on the B737 and more legroom.
If you open both eyes you'll see VB premium economy is a vastly different to QF economy and with all the add ons, like Lounge access, it is very comparable to QF buisness class at a significantly reduced price.
Time will tell
where do you get your info. from?
VB premium economy is CHEAPER than the fully flexible QF economy fare and about 60% of QF business class fare, in most cases. It does offer 2 abreast seating on the B737 and more legroom.
If you open both eyes you'll see VB premium economy is a vastly different to QF economy and with all the add ons, like Lounge access, it is very comparable to QF buisness class at a significantly reduced price.
Time will tell
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Its cheaper than a full Y economy class QF fare which its competing against.
You get a seat in the first three rows guaranteed - QF you sit wherever.
Access to The Lounge - QF you have already paid separately for your Club membership.
It appears free f&b/foxtel is coming so it is a substantially better product - QF you get whatever comes in a box + free drink + maybe IFE if its working.
Priority check-in - QF economy you don't unless you are a frequent flyer.
Best of all you get a wider seat with potentially only one person beside you.
Oh and for all this the price is actually $39 cheaper SYD-MEL.
You get a seat in the first three rows guaranteed - QF you sit wherever.
Access to The Lounge - QF you have already paid separately for your Club membership.
It appears free f&b/foxtel is coming so it is a substantially better product - QF you get whatever comes in a box + free drink + maybe IFE if its working.
Priority check-in - QF economy you don't unless you are a frequent flyer.
Best of all you get a wider seat with potentially only one person beside you.
Oh and for all this the price is actually $39 cheaper SYD-MEL.
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FINALLY you don't need to pay $6 for a VB, $4 for a pack of Morish Nuts mix, $2.50 for a bottle of water, $9.90 for Live2Air ON TOP OF a $959 one-way fare SYD-PER. Maybe those red seats will start filling up now.
I think any change that promotes quality over the low value model is great and to be supported.
The trend has been toward offering the worst quality product possible, so wouldn't a smart business offer a point of difference -- like a class of flight somewhere between full economy and business that makes it possible for passengers to travel in reasonable comfort that doesn't cost as much as business that is just over the top ?
Well done Virgin -- if at some stage I can tear myself away from my Qantas club/QF frequent flyer comfort zone I wll give your premium economy a go, and who knows if I like it I might even use it more than once
The trend has been toward offering the worst quality product possible, so wouldn't a smart business offer a point of difference -- like a class of flight somewhere between full economy and business that makes it possible for passengers to travel in reasonable comfort that doesn't cost as much as business that is just over the top ?
Well done Virgin -- if at some stage I can tear myself away from my Qantas club/QF frequent flyer comfort zone I wll give your premium economy a go, and who knows if I like it I might even use it more than once
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Well done Virgin -- if at some stage I can tear myself away from my Qantas club/QF frequent flyer comfort zone I will give your premium economy a go, and who knows if I like it I might even use it more than once
Tangan & Wirgin, The fare is not cheaper than the flexsaver and is only cheaper than the full flex on the shorter flights such as SYD-MEL. I can buy a flexsaver tomorrow or in 6 months time on a 767/A330 cityflyer service for $80 less than the Premium Econ (SYD-MEL).
Also on the lower end fares QF is far more accommodating to move passengers to earlier flights (if space permits) on the day of travel free of charge, don't need a lounge then because i just get on the first available flight.
And to compare Premium Economy with Business class shows you have not travelled on either of them (especialy if you paid for PE and travelled on an Embraer).
Also on the lower end fares QF is far more accommodating to move passengers to earlier flights (if space permits) on the day of travel free of charge, don't need a lounge then because i just get on the first available flight.
And to compare Premium Economy with Business class shows you have not travelled on either of them (especialy if you paid for PE and travelled on an Embraer).
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Flew in this so called "Premium Economy" today ... the seat was no wider than the standard DJ Y class seat, and marginally more leg room. Def hardly any difference on board ... sure you get a vacant seat next to you, but as for 'stretching out' ... not likely !!
As for free F & B ... big deal ... what, they are going to give you an FOC 2 day old sandwich they charge everyone 5 bucks for?
If they want to really attract the premium fare travellers off QF that are usually in J cls on the rat, they have a lot of work to do to make this a decent inflight product
As for free F & B ... big deal ... what, they are going to give you an FOC 2 day old sandwich they charge everyone 5 bucks for?
If they want to really attract the premium fare travellers off QF that are usually in J cls on the rat, they have a lot of work to do to make this a decent inflight product
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Punters opinion?
Nah - thanks mate - I will go QF Y class. Same as the Lownj - Nah - gimme Club Rat.
70% is not a match.
The big con is the jungle jets. A bit more pitch, but in a 2/2 config there is really nowhere to go with width. Shiny red seats just don't cut it.
We ran alleged First Class on F27s out of Tassie in the early 80's. Not a clever move, but at least it was only about 10% dearer than economy. Problem was you had trouble reaching your tray table. TN and AN ran the same and the jungle jets are doing exactly that.
No real new marketing here, and I notice NZ are offering a direct copy of Ansett's Mystery Nights domestically in New Zealand.
There must be a lot of old Ansett/Australian?East West marketing gurus still out there trying desperately to eke out a living on old ideas.
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Nah - thanks mate - I will go QF Y class. Same as the Lownj - Nah - gimme Club Rat.
70% is not a match.
The big con is the jungle jets. A bit more pitch, but in a 2/2 config there is really nowhere to go with width. Shiny red seats just don't cut it.
We ran alleged First Class on F27s out of Tassie in the early 80's. Not a clever move, but at least it was only about 10% dearer than economy. Problem was you had trouble reaching your tray table. TN and AN ran the same and the jungle jets are doing exactly that.
No real new marketing here, and I notice NZ are offering a direct copy of Ansett's Mystery Nights domestically in New Zealand.
There must be a lot of old Ansett/Australian?East West marketing gurus still out there trying desperately to eke out a living on old ideas.
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the seat was no wider than the standard DJ Y class seat
Did the armrests not extend into the middle seat, to create more seat width? Was there no centre console?
That is the product DJ are advertising.
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Well when I flew with them Tuesaday all the Premium Economy seats were empty like alot of us have seen when we have flown them. Rather than them sitting empty they shoud introduce Discount Premium Economy where you get the space but at a lesser price however your ticket is less flexible, also have Flexi Premium Economy where your ticket is fully flexible like it is at present!
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Flew a few times with Virgin the last month, every time (both B737 and E190) premium economy was empty, bar one guy sitting there on one flight who turned out to be crew.
While the eJet is nicer to fly on I wouldn't bother to pay the full fare, it's very expensive and I'd rather save the money flying economy on Q (Virgin are too cramped for me on the 737) or on the eJet and save the $$$$ for my holiday/time off.
Wonder how really tall people handle it?? (I'm about 5' 5")
While the eJet is nicer to fly on I wouldn't bother to pay the full fare, it's very expensive and I'd rather save the money flying economy on Q (Virgin are too cramped for me on the 737) or on the eJet and save the $$$$ for my holiday/time off.
Wonder how really tall people handle it?? (I'm about 5' 5")
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LRH,
The seat pitch ( rows 4 and back) on Virgin's 737 is equal to or greater than that on the Q's 737s. The seat pitch and seat width on the E-jet is greater than both Virgin and Q's B737.
The seat pitch ( rows 4 and back) on Virgin's 737 is equal to or greater than that on the Q's 737s. The seat pitch and seat width on the E-jet is greater than both Virgin and Q's B737.
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premium economy was empty, bar one guy sitting there on one flight who turned out to be crew.
Doubt it, crew can be near sacked for that
The additional perks aren't in yet, once they are the seats will fill up a bit more. The pax who I've spoken to who travel in these seats do really like them, which surprised me. The reason, simple, price. A couple of people have mentioned they can travel return to PER for the same cost as a QF one way bus class. For them it worked, & they're happy with the product. There is a market for it, a small market though which the new freebees should extend it.
Doubt it, crew can be near sacked for that
The additional perks aren't in yet, once they are the seats will fill up a bit more. The pax who I've spoken to who travel in these seats do really like them, which surprised me. The reason, simple, price. A couple of people have mentioned they can travel return to PER for the same cost as a QF one way bus class. For them it worked, & they're happy with the product. There is a market for it, a small market though which the new freebees should extend it.
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All I know is, my knees bang the seat in front on Virgin and I feel like I'm sitting against a vertical wall (with seat reclined), on Q I can stretch my feet out without knee contact with the seat in front. That's just my personal experience.
When I said crew I meant he was travelling on holidays, I got talking while I was waiting for the loo as I commented he was all alone up there! Not operating crew of course!! Although they did sit in the 1st row while having their break, nothing wrong with that when you have a line of pax standing in your galley waiting for the dunny!
When I said crew I meant he was travelling on holidays, I got talking while I was waiting for the loo as I commented he was all alone up there! Not operating crew of course!! Although they did sit in the 1st row while having their break, nothing wrong with that when you have a line of pax standing in your galley waiting for the dunny!
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