F-111G's retired.
From Toady's Austrealian- A RUDD Labor government would order a new defence white paper to prioritise Australia's future military needs and has promised to put pressure on Washington to lift a ban on the sale of the stealth F-22 air superiority fighter.
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Seem to remember that the Army's CH-47D's are stock standard US models as well.
F22's and SH!
Could we delete SH and insert JSF please, else we end up on another procurement tangent. I thought the US thinking was 22 and 35 were designed to be mutually lethal.
Simple question perhaps, but why the rush to buy Boeing's baby?
F22's and SH!
Could we delete SH and insert JSF please, else we end up on another procurement tangent. I thought the US thinking was 22 and 35 were designed to be mutually lethal.
Simple question perhaps, but why the rush to buy Boeing's baby?
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Probably because there is a significant risk that JSF will be substantially delayed or even cancelled. That would obviously leave a big gapping hole where the F-111 is/was.
The USA have NO intentions to sell the F22, in its full or derated form, to ANY other nation, be they close allies, or not. The JSF is the only 5th generation "fighter" that is intended to be sold abroad.
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FB understood,
did read in todays Australian that Rudd will team with Japan to strongly ague our case for sales of the F22.
Pie in the sky or time to call in some favours from our best mate GB?
did read in todays Australian that Rudd will team with Japan to strongly ague our case for sales of the F22.
Pie in the sky or time to call in some favours from our best mate GB?
Labor promises another SAS rotation in Afganistan, a committment of regular infrantry etc.
The USAF wants more F22's. Japan and Australia as part of the new alliance in the North Pacific lobby for it too!
I wouldn't be so sure the aircraft will never be for sale.A big part of the nos sale policy would be forcing countries such as Australia and Japan to subsidise development and procurement costs of the F35.
Incidently, was flying near Okinawa last night and something very fast and very high caught in the sunset on descent.
The USAF wants more F22's. Japan and Australia as part of the new alliance in the North Pacific lobby for it too!
I wouldn't be so sure the aircraft will never be for sale.A big part of the nos sale policy would be forcing countries such as Australia and Japan to subsidise development and procurement costs of the F35.
Incidently, was flying near Okinawa last night and something very fast and very high caught in the sunset on descent.
Gnads you should try dealing with US Foreign Military Sales (FMS). They'll sell you bombs, tanks and high tech air-to-air missiles one day - then deny you the most simple software application the next day. (Usually I suspect because some Major is worried and treats Australia like Ivory Coast).
I heard of the US stripping out a bit of software that predicts when the sun and moon rise and set from one project.
Maybe they know something about the sun that we don't
Maybe they know something about the sun that we don't
As on the subject of the F22, it's not really what we need, even though on the surface it may look like the perfect candidate (not saying the IMO the F35 is a perfect replacement).
Used to work with the F111's so have a fairly biased opinion on what would come close, but over time Australia's strategies have changed and in todays world pure firepower is not always the deciding factor.
Also remember we (Australia) have invested considerable money on our AWAC (Wedgetail) and Tankers (A330 conversion) and with the replacement for our Orions (possibly 737MMA) as well as the good ol' Caribou we have to look more at the big picture, rather than just taking such an aquisition as being the focal point.
Just my two cents.
We had an F-111 over us at low level, on the 10th August 2009 about 100nm NW of YBCV, while we were mustering cattle. I thought I was seeing things for a bit.
Maybe that was the last gasp????
Maybe that was the last gasp????
F-111's....
Re:
"There Are Lies, Damn Lies, And F111 Estimates......
Senator Mc Killen, Somewhere before the F-111's were commissioned!
Now, I ask YOU What BETTER Aircraft could have possibly kept
'The Enemy' "At Bay" ...When WE needed them most ???
And 'Need them' still???
A True Believer........
"There Are Lies, Damn Lies, And F111 Estimates......
Senator Mc Killen, Somewhere before the F-111's were commissioned!
Now, I ask YOU What BETTER Aircraft could have possibly kept
'The Enemy' "At Bay" ...When WE needed them most ???
And 'Need them' still???
A True Believer........
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The most important question. How many years do I have left to see an F-111 fly by while dumping fuel while in afterburner at an airshow? Day and night preferred.