Qantas Group 787's
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Whats happening at the Link will have consequences for everyone. Pilots employed by eastern are now to fly aircraft under the sunnies aoc. Not at the bottom of the seniority list but direct entry Captains and FO's on the 400. They are to trained and checked under the sunstate car217 but by Eastern checkies. All legal apparently, brave new world. Its open slather from here.
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Qantas management is happy to say to frequent flyers/premium passengers 'you can ride in this old aircraft for a few more years yet
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Reel Time's problem
Reel time,
No one has hit the nail on the head (though some have come close)...mainly because they are too introspective.
No need for confusion..the 78s release the A330s back to mainline to deal with capacity shortfall ( same reason as the 743s are still around).
The 76s have a few miles left - why get rid of an asset that's paid off that can still turn a dollar. If you are only flying for an hour, they are not too shabby.
No one has hit the nail on the head (though some have come close)...mainly because they are too introspective.
No need for confusion..the 78s release the A330s back to mainline to deal with capacity shortfall ( same reason as the 743s are still around).
The 76s have a few miles left - why get rid of an asset that's paid off that can still turn a dollar. If you are only flying for an hour, they are not too shabby.
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Reel time,
Got it in one, sport.
The 767s & 743s are fully depreciated, so there are no capital costs; a good lease deal on seven airframes won't upset the economics of the whole fleet. They can now run them until the next D check is due (save 16 or so hours to get them over to Marana) and any revenue generated by/on them, is pure revenue. Most punters know and trust them and are familiar and happy with them. So long as they're kept clean inside, the loos work and there's a modicum of IFE on longer runs, the punters are happy.
Further, both QF and JQ will have to convert to 787s; but moving the 767s to JQ first, would mean an extra set of conversion costs within the group. Flogging the 767s to within an inch of their lives where they are until they need to be retired, makes more economic sense.
As for equipment purchases having an eye to the prevailing IR situation... all I'll say is that one carrier once found it cheaper to order their six 767s with a 3-man crew, than face down the potential IR problems
Well as long as the shareholders are happy...
The 767s & 743s are fully depreciated, so there are no capital costs; a good lease deal on seven airframes won't upset the economics of the whole fleet. They can now run them until the next D check is due (save 16 or so hours to get them over to Marana) and any revenue generated by/on them, is pure revenue. Most punters know and trust them and are familiar and happy with them. So long as they're kept clean inside, the loos work and there's a modicum of IFE on longer runs, the punters are happy.
Further, both QF and JQ will have to convert to 787s; but moving the 767s to JQ first, would mean an extra set of conversion costs within the group. Flogging the 767s to within an inch of their lives where they are until they need to be retired, makes more economic sense.
As for equipment purchases having an eye to the prevailing IR situation... all I'll say is that one carrier once found it cheaper to order their six 767s with a 3-man crew, than face down the potential IR problems
