Near Miss at Tulla

[Capn Bloggs]

engage SRS

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ran into the ground hard and activated the SRS airbags.

[Keg]

Clarrie may have it. As far as I'm aware there has been no comment here indicating that the gear had not been lowered...I think we all understand that the gear had been lowered earlier in the approach. The speculation is that that perhaps the gear had been retracted at a time when it shouldn't have been and I note that Westaway's comments do not address this issue. Spin like this really drives me nuts- whether it's Westaway, Godfrey or whoever QF is trotting out in front of the cameras this time around.

Still, I wasn't there and I don't know what happened. No doubt the report will be out eventually and we'll all know the truth of the matter.

[Capt Kremin]

The aircraft will go-around on autopilot but it must be initiated in the same way a manual go-around is.

It will do neither automatically.

[Unemployed]

ok ........ refer my thread ......

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=290637

the way I heard it it was ....... IMC at Minima.....GA commenced......GA flap selected......Gear raised....... (I am not familiar with the A320) ... but the levers were not moved to GA position ?? ..... the a/c stayed in App. mode... and continued descending.....the crew did not notice the oversight......"too low gear" warning ....... crew realized something was wrong....... corrected....... Rad. Alt started countdown........ engines spun up......climbed away from 10 or 20 feet with the gear up (as it had already been selected up at the minima)

NOW I'll ask my original question again !!!!!! Any one know anything about it ???????

[Bula]

After a quick perusal of the ATSB website.. I think some people have preconceived misconceptions about the safety of their own operations...

Kremin.... and you know it wasn't initiated how? ... mmm thought so

Umemployed ... stop fishing mate. After reading your post lets just say you may want to wait for the report to be published. But while you are waiting have a look at how many time this has occurred around the world and get back to me...

Oh and by the way.... the time between reaching the minima and "too low, gear" is only a couple of seconds in that situation. Thats only coincidence and here-say... as for the rest... spin it whatever way you like.

As for being appalled about how they performed....... .. some peoples children... perfect aces under pressure ay?

[cunninglinguist]

The aircraft will go-around on autopilot but it must be initiated in the same way a manual go-around is.
It will do neither automatically.

I'd hardly call having to advance the thrust levers to the TOGA detent, manual.

[Capt Claret]

So Bula, how does one try to determine whether a story heard has any basis in fact then? I've heard much the same as Unemployed. Like him, I haven't sought to sling mud, simply show some interest.

Just because many PPRuNe threads on Dunnunda degenerate into mud slinging, it doesn't follow that all questions seek to do so.

[Bula]

Mate you act like every normal human being and wait for the report to confirm what you have heard.... Id hardly call a clarification through misinterpretation as giving a nod to what I have heard.

When the report is released there will be some golden stuff on Human-Machine interfaces, human factors, automation misinterpretation and bias... but how about you guys just wait