ATSB competency?
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Smacks of a Classic commonwealth Coverup
They like the power, they like to control, they like OUR money but guess what NO BLOODY RESPONSIBILITY....typical of Australian Aviation.
The alarms sounded and they did not tell the pilot. Well anywhere else in the world somebody would go to gaol.
Put the shoe on the other foot.....if WE did it we would certainly go to gaol.....oh well nothing has changed since Captain Cook arrived...they are the untouchables...obviously GOD like creatures well above the law or even life!! They pretend to be a commercial business UNTIL they cockup then scurry back to their hovels and say we are the Government now...
Goodonya Dick for telling the world! We must expose these bureaucratic morons more often.
The alarms sounded and they did not tell the pilot. Well anywhere else in the world somebody would go to gaol.
Put the shoe on the other foot.....if WE did it we would certainly go to gaol.....oh well nothing has changed since Captain Cook arrived...they are the untouchables...obviously GOD like creatures well above the law or even life!! They pretend to be a commercial business UNTIL they cockup then scurry back to their hovels and say we are the Government now...
Goodonya Dick for telling the world! We must expose these bureaucratic morons more often.
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I'm in one of those moods
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until ATC have surveillance, alarms, and sectors small enough to monitor your low level IFR op's without distraction ... forget it ... and to have that will cost the industry a motsa .. fact
.... as I said, give us the right gear and resources .. what is unreasonable about that??.
EMU really
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- have you any idea what the system track alarms work on (RNC routes and waypoints) and what they don't (IAF points particularly OCTA)?
- have you any idea what communication occured between pilot and ATC?
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.. and as for the rest of your bile .. you are a loony
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Scurvy.D.Dog, once again, another error from me – I have to admit it. I should have said, “so that the air traffic controller can share the responsibility for the prevention of controlled flight into terrain accidents.”
I’m sure everyone will agree that it is better to act before the accident.
I’m sure everyone will agree that it is better to act before the accident.
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New poster, old issue
Currently writing an assignment on the old LAMP vs NAS debate and are encouraged to "identify the major impact the changes have made to their work through actual experience" since it is an old debate. I fell there weren't many changes since NAS stopped at 2b and was then partially retracted. Only been an ATCO for 3 yrs so perhaps I am ignorant in my youth - what do others think about 'changes?'
Personally I see Dick's argument (except for calling YBPN a 'black hole', that is just lame), I think NAS is a good system, but like everyone else has said where will the money come from. It won't work with the current large sectors.
Re: UNICOM/CAGRO, do any other TCU ATCO's hold CAGRO ratings. My TCU doesn't do it routinely but have controllers rated to do it.
Currently writing an assignment on the old LAMP vs NAS debate and are encouraged to "identify the major impact the changes have made to their work through actual experience" since it is an old debate. I fell there weren't many changes since NAS stopped at 2b and was then partially retracted. Only been an ATCO for 3 yrs so perhaps I am ignorant in my youth - what do others think about 'changes?'
Personally I see Dick's argument (except for calling YBPN a 'black hole', that is just lame), I think NAS is a good system, but like everyone else has said where will the money come from. It won't work with the current large sectors.
Re: UNICOM/CAGRO, do any other TCU ATCO's hold CAGRO ratings. My TCU doesn't do it routinely but have controllers rated to do it.
