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Old 10th Sep 2007, 08:50
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Well the time is nigh to vote the architects of this miserable legislation out!
Make every vote count!
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AWAs/EBAs

So can anyone in the know reliably inform us as to whether the new starts at J* are going to be on AWAs or EBAs?
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To augment wot ITCZ & 'holic said
Originally Posted by from the ABC - http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...09/2028004.htm

WorkChoices wording makes sackings easier: report

A new report has found a slight difference in the wording of workplace laws has given employers more opportunity to restructure their businesses.

The report was commissioned by Victoria's Workplace Rights Advocate, and
compiled by a senior lecturer in workplace law at Monash University.

Dr Anthony Forsyth says he concentrated on one aspect of the new
WorkChoices laws - the provision allowing workers to be dismissed for genuine operational reasons.

"In the past, the employer would have had to show some element of the necessity of the restructuring that they're going through, but under operational reasons, they don't have to show that there's any strong financial imperative," he said.

"The difference in terminology - operational 'requirements' under the past law, and operational 'reasons' under the new law might seem subtle, but it is in fact a very big difference in terms of the broad types of cases that can now be included in an operational reasons dismissal, that will mean an employee won't any longer have a claim."

Victorian deputy premier Rob Hulls says the report shows job security is a thing of the past under the new laws.

He says the report suggests that if a boss does not like a worker, or the company needs smartening up, a person can be sacked.

"Being able to dismiss an employee for operational reasons has been interpreted very broadly, which means that any employee in Victoria can virtually be dismissed without any valid reason being given," he said.
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Old 10th Sep 2007, 15:15
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AWA or Collective Workplace Agreement

It will not be an EBA but a collective workplace agreement which it is now called under workchoices.

An AWA can still be offered individually however.

There will be more money for wide body experienced ex EK or CX managers and check+trainers on individual AWA's to get the operation up and running with the OK from CASA and a piddly collective agreement for everyone else.


I'd love to think that the group would bind together in a time of massive profits and pilot shortages however that is not reality and AJ knows it.
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Old 14th Sep 2007, 03:13
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What about Perth?

If "Jetstar is expanding domestically and wants to grow in Asia."
Why have they ignored Perth?
Do any of you guys know? Is it simply because of fleet size?
OK, so they fly MEL-PER once a day but that's it.
Would have thought there were opportunities ex PER to Asia? as OzJet have announced 3 flights a week ex PER to DPS.
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Old 15th Sep 2007, 01:05
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if you haven't noticed

QF mainline is now codesharing on the mel-syd-per sectors with J*. this has now been expanded to mel/tulla-syd sectors on certain city flyers flights. i wonder how the profits are shared. J* no meals/ drinks etc. QF free drinks and food. good if you geta cheap J* fare.
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Old 15th Sep 2007, 01:13
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Well the time is nigh to vote the architects of this miserable legislation out!Make every vote count!
And do you think that the ALP will rip up the AWA's? Nothing is going to change on that front. We're stuck with them no matter what happens.
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Old 15th Sep 2007, 01:16
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first you get elected

then you can "tinker " with the goods, whatever they may be
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