QF LHR Base....Legal Issues
Time,the media and others will reveal all......
Yep indeed it will.
However, I believe it will be the increase in customer satisfaction ratings and the expansion of the LHR base.
As for closing it, why???
An abundant stream of crew with experience from other carriers who are wanting to join.
Interesting to speak to the crew who are ex VS, EK, GB and others of their impressions of work environment, terms and conditions etc, etc.
Only adds to a good days flying!
Yep indeed it will.
However, I believe it will be the increase in customer satisfaction ratings and the expansion of the LHR base.
As for closing it, why???
An abundant stream of crew with experience from other carriers who are wanting to join.
Interesting to speak to the crew who are ex VS, EK, GB and others of their impressions of work environment, terms and conditions etc, etc.
Only adds to a good days flying!
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like a good party with all the trimmings.wish there would be more of it back in LH. i'll say keep going lhr base you guys are in for the short term, so keep partying
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LHR Longevity
The savings anticipated have not been realized.
How good the customer service surveys is irrelevant.
Just ask AO crew.
The surveys are vetted by the LHR base and are consequently skewed
If the company gets an outcome from this years EBA negotiations with LH CC the longevity of the LHR base will be called into question.
Everything at Qantas is under continuous review.
Who will fly the A380 in and out of LHR?
Most likely the AKL base...they are cheapest and a lot cheaper than LHR CC.
Perhaps the LHR base will be offered positions with JetStar Europe.?
The attrition rate in LHR is the highest in the Qantas group.
People do not leave another carrier to join QFUK unless they have been dismissed or are in transit to somewhere else.
Enjoy the QF catering while you can boys and girls.
How good the customer service surveys is irrelevant.
Just ask AO crew.
The surveys are vetted by the LHR base and are consequently skewed
If the company gets an outcome from this years EBA negotiations with LH CC the longevity of the LHR base will be called into question.
Everything at Qantas is under continuous review.
Who will fly the A380 in and out of LHR?
Most likely the AKL base...they are cheapest and a lot cheaper than LHR CC.
Perhaps the LHR base will be offered positions with JetStar Europe.?
The attrition rate in LHR is the highest in the Qantas group.
People do not leave another carrier to join QFUK unless they have been dismissed or are in transit to somewhere else.
Enjoy the QF catering while you can boys and girls.
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LHR Base:The Untouchables?
For some reason Peanut Puncher and his cohorts believe that they are indispensable to the success of the Qantas Business.
Do you guys fly to Mumbai?
If so what are you smoking?
Its having a bad effect on your real world perception.
Do you guys fly to Mumbai?
If so what are you smoking?
Its having a bad effect on your real world perception.
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Watchyour6 or Surfside6
Are you posting under different names?
Just remember that Australian based crew also fly to LHR... On CIS, funny to see a couple paxing home tonight on the QF2...hmmm no slip in BKK straight through to SYD, not paxing sick
Sounds like your just anti LHR base!
Are you posting under different names?
Just remember that Australian based crew also fly to LHR... On CIS, funny to see a couple paxing home tonight on the QF2...hmmm no slip in BKK straight through to SYD, not paxing sick
Sounds like your just anti LHR base!
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Judge Judy
There is an inquisition style management in Sydney.
Crew have been accused of all manner of things.All have been exonerated.
Its a pity the same style of management isnt present in LHR.
No one from the LHR base denies any of the stuff mentioned previously
eg.trashing hotel rooms,theft of company stores and hotel pool drainings.
Fart without permission in Sydney and you are clause elevened.
In LHR if you stole an A/C no one would say a word.
Talk about a protected species.
Perhaps that is about to change.
Crew have been accused of all manner of things.All have been exonerated.
Its a pity the same style of management isnt present in LHR.
No one from the LHR base denies any of the stuff mentioned previously
eg.trashing hotel rooms,theft of company stores and hotel pool drainings.
Fart without permission in Sydney and you are clause elevened.
In LHR if you stole an A/C no one would say a word.
Talk about a protected species.
Perhaps that is about to change.
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Somebody has been busted at Heathrow again with two suitcases of cigarettes, not lhr based crew either. Happened in the last two days.
On the point of lhr crew versus syd/akk/bkk can't you see it's really an argument of our tribe versus your tribe...?! It's a basic human instinct to form groups and protect ourselves from others, nothing to do with the quality of the people involved e.g. doctors/nurses pilots/flight attendants upper-deck/lower-deck carlton/collingwood. It's called Tribalism.
On the point of lhr crew versus syd/akk/bkk can't you see it's really an argument of our tribe versus your tribe...?! It's a basic human instinct to form groups and protect ourselves from others, nothing to do with the quality of the people involved e.g. doctors/nurses pilots/flight attendants upper-deck/lower-deck carlton/collingwood. It's called Tribalism.
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I haven't contributed to this forum of much lately for a variety of reasons, but this thread managed to get a rise out of me.
With the greatest of respect, most of the comments posted here are either factually incorrect or wildly exaggerated.
Stealing isn't rife and if it were we'd see a lot more people being shown the door. Does anyone actually believe that Qantas Security would treat LHR based crew any differently from SYD based crew? What do they care if they catch LHR, SYD, MEL crew or engineers or techies? They don't report to Customer Services so there mandate is protect the business and its revenue / assets.
There have been no significant incidents involving LHR based crew in slip ports for ages. In fact, if you do actually check about you'll find that the most recent incidents have involved non-LHR based crew.
Can't comment on a hotel pool being drained - never heard of it and it seems a little unlikely coz that sounds like big news to me. What happened? Someone have a poo or something?
There was a comment about the surveys being vetted. How? The surveys are the same as in Australia. They're subject to the same return method as in Australia, so if you're speculating that they're subject to being tampered with by the crew then right back at ya.
Customs infractions - what a load of cr@p. Yes, a number of crew have been pinched bringing in the odd extra carton of fags and bottle of booze. Confiscated, fined and kicked squarely in the @rse. Mind you, 2 BKK based crew were caught with commercial quantities of fags, so has 1 SYD based FA. No one from the LHR base has been busted doing that and innocent until proven guilty as I understand it. Mind you, no one from the LHR base has been implicated in trafficking commercial quantities of narcotics either. If HMRC thought for a second that there was a problem, every single QF inbound flight would be being screened at the control gate - fact.
Attrition rate - highest in the QF Group. Well I don't have access to the entire Groups data - but without a doubt it is much higher than cabin crew in Australia. But then again, there are so many airlines available in the EU to apply for that often the job isn't seen as job for life as it is in Australia. Rightly or wrongly, it is a different environment here.
Recruitment - people don't leave other airlines to joing QFUK? How could you possibly know? Unless you work in recruitment in LHR, that is a completely spurious claim.
I'll freely admit that the LHR base isn't without its issues but then again show me a base that isn't.
If you've been on these forums for a bit you'll know I'm not a "company plant" and that I'm just a regular FA. I don't mind people objecting to o/s bases as it's an individual view - but when you start tarnishing everyone with the same brush, then that's just rude and it needs to responded to.
With the greatest of respect, most of the comments posted here are either factually incorrect or wildly exaggerated.
Stealing isn't rife and if it were we'd see a lot more people being shown the door. Does anyone actually believe that Qantas Security would treat LHR based crew any differently from SYD based crew? What do they care if they catch LHR, SYD, MEL crew or engineers or techies? They don't report to Customer Services so there mandate is protect the business and its revenue / assets.
There have been no significant incidents involving LHR based crew in slip ports for ages. In fact, if you do actually check about you'll find that the most recent incidents have involved non-LHR based crew.
Can't comment on a hotel pool being drained - never heard of it and it seems a little unlikely coz that sounds like big news to me. What happened? Someone have a poo or something?
There was a comment about the surveys being vetted. How? The surveys are the same as in Australia. They're subject to the same return method as in Australia, so if you're speculating that they're subject to being tampered with by the crew then right back at ya.
Customs infractions - what a load of cr@p. Yes, a number of crew have been pinched bringing in the odd extra carton of fags and bottle of booze. Confiscated, fined and kicked squarely in the @rse. Mind you, 2 BKK based crew were caught with commercial quantities of fags, so has 1 SYD based FA. No one from the LHR base has been busted doing that and innocent until proven guilty as I understand it. Mind you, no one from the LHR base has been implicated in trafficking commercial quantities of narcotics either. If HMRC thought for a second that there was a problem, every single QF inbound flight would be being screened at the control gate - fact.
Attrition rate - highest in the QF Group. Well I don't have access to the entire Groups data - but without a doubt it is much higher than cabin crew in Australia. But then again, there are so many airlines available in the EU to apply for that often the job isn't seen as job for life as it is in Australia. Rightly or wrongly, it is a different environment here.
Recruitment - people don't leave other airlines to joing QFUK? How could you possibly know? Unless you work in recruitment in LHR, that is a completely spurious claim.
I'll freely admit that the LHR base isn't without its issues but then again show me a base that isn't.
If you've been on these forums for a bit you'll know I'm not a "company plant" and that I'm just a regular FA. I don't mind people objecting to o/s bases as it's an individual view - but when you start tarnishing everyone with the same brush, then that's just rude and it needs to responded to.
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I think it's time to agree to disagree.
We all know why the LHR base was set up.This will rub most Australian crew the wrong way as it is taking away work and also ruining the LHR trips as we used to know it.This is also the caswe with the other bases but I guess LHR is singled out because of the way it was done.
This then leaves us with those that went to LHR and those that did not and they will I doubt ever see eye to eye.
Whether the rumours are true or not we will probably never find out unless the base closes down.The company as was evident wit the AO base in CNS will never tell us what the real story is so we can forget that.
This thread then will continue as an pointless,endless exercise in frustration.
We all know why the LHR base was set up.This will rub most Australian crew the wrong way as it is taking away work and also ruining the LHR trips as we used to know it.This is also the caswe with the other bases but I guess LHR is singled out because of the way it was done.
This then leaves us with those that went to LHR and those that did not and they will I doubt ever see eye to eye.
Whether the rumours are true or not we will probably never find out unless the base closes down.The company as was evident wit the AO base in CNS will never tell us what the real story is so we can forget that.
This thread then will continue as an pointless,endless exercise in frustration.
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Pattern Details
On the bottom of the pattern there is an explanation why the pattern was created...reason...... compassionate.
The other crew have file numbers which are imprecise
The other crew have file numbers which are imprecise
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Pretentious
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Ozskipper-neither a Captain or lives in Australia
A Foreign Based FA employed by a hire company and not employed by Qantas.
A tad pretentious
Skipper-Captain
Ozskipper-neither a Captain or lives in Australia
A Foreign Based FA employed by a hire company and not employed by Qantas.
A tad pretentious
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Did have a look at the Pattern details
I was referring to the two crew with the file numbers... I didnt mention anything of the crew member returning on compassionate reasons.
Just pointing out something we could all have a look at.... Guess you make your own judgement based on what you know... Sure it will all be out soon.
I "heard" that it was Aust based crew.
Just pointing out something we could all have a look at.... Guess you make your own judgement based on what you know... Sure it will all be out soon.
I "heard" that it was Aust based crew.
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Hi guys. Yeh I did ask because I still don't see with regards to the "bottom of the pattern" how you can tell which is which, I'm sorry (from looking just on CIS). Which y pattern is the compassionate one? 
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Oz- Australian
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Ozskipper-neither a Captain or lives in Australia
A Foreign Based FA employed by a hire company and not employed by Qantas.
A tad pretentious
Skipper-Captain
Ozskipper-neither a Captain or lives in Australia
A Foreign Based FA employed by a hire company and not employed by Qantas.
A tad pretentious
As I said, if you've been on these forums for a bit you'd know that I am actually Australian and a FA who is on LWOP from Qantas - so I am employed by Qantas.
We all make decisions based on own personal circumstances to suit ourselves. No denying it.
As for being pretentious - well I wasn't trying to impress - if you've got qualifications outside of being a FA well call me pretentious! It's nice to have options if I decide that flying isn't for me anymore.
Lowerlobe - couldn't agree with you more. Everyone has a different view and that's just life
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