QF Longhaul CC......" The chocolategate Affair"
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QF Longhaul CC......" The chocolategate Affair"
The word on the street is that P W-B has been fully re-instated with back pay after being sacked by CC management [cough] for being found with a number of chocolates in his possession [off the aircraft].
Some background.............
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/...548022988.html
Some background.............
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2007/...548022988.html
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I agree with QF enforcing not stealing wines etc, but this was absolutely outrageous. This was purely QF boosting engagement levels. (Personally think some of QF management have taken management lessons from Hitlers little black book)
Good on the guy for winning and sticking it up QF. I hope he gets a payout and doesnt have to work for QF again.
Good on the guy for winning and sticking it up QF. I hope he gets a payout and doesnt have to work for QF again.
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Wow,some here like twiggs who posted this little gem..
"Lowerlobe you had better admit that the chocky bandit has not yet won or lost his case, as I am sure you are misleading many people by this claim"
....will not be pleased by this especially as she played judge,jury and executioner by referring to him as the "chocky bandit".
"Lowerlobe you had better admit that the chocky bandit has not yet won or lost his case, as I am sure you are misleading many people by this claim"
....will not be pleased by this especially as she played judge,jury and executioner by referring to him as the "chocky bandit".
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Lowerlobe, you are again posting misinformation.
That article is from March.
If you have a link to the AIRC decision giving his job back, then post it.
Otherwise, stop pre-empting the decision.
It serves the guy no justice.
That article is from March.
If you have a link to the AIRC decision giving his job back, then post it.
Otherwise, stop pre-empting the decision.
It serves the guy no justice.
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Pilfering at Qantas
If they were serious about pilfering at Qantas they would inspect the boots of all management cars leaving the base on Friday afternoon.
Particularly the Friday before a long weekend.
The wine beer and spirits(Company Stores)departing the base causes a few executive Beemers to be markedly lower over the rear axles.
Bar B at KBs?...do not BYOG
Qantas...the Animal Farm at Mascot
Particularly the Friday before a long weekend.
The wine beer and spirits(Company Stores)departing the base causes a few executive Beemers to be markedly lower over the rear axles.
Bar B at KBs?...do not BYOG
Qantas...the Animal Farm at Mascot
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As I said a decision against the company and who turns up..Twiggs...
twiggs say's.. "It serves the guy no justice"..
and yet it is YOU who call him the "chocky bandit".
twiggs say's.. "It serves the guy no justice"..
and yet it is YOU who call him the "chocky bandit".
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The FACT is that he got his job back WITH back pay.
Isn't it twiggs?
Rumour has it that, so damning was the Commissioner of QF management's [cough] treatment of Mr Phillip Woodwood Brown that QF tried [unsuccessfully] to have the transcripts of the proceedings made confidential.
I won't be the only one waiting with baited breath to read of the "heroic deeds" of fat boy slim, the boyscout, lurch, the dj hostie and the kiwi sociopath fighting the good fight against, THE CHOCOLATE BANDIT.
Isn't it twiggs?
Rumour has it that, so damning was the Commissioner of QF management's [cough] treatment of Mr Phillip Woodwood Brown that QF tried [unsuccessfully] to have the transcripts of the proceedings made confidential.
I won't be the only one waiting with baited breath to read of the "heroic deeds" of fat boy slim, the boyscout, lurch, the dj hostie and the kiwi sociopath fighting the good fight against, THE CHOCOLATE BANDIT.
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Speedbird,
I have no idea if he has his job back, but if the decision has not even been publicised by the union, then I highly doubt that it has occurred.
Interesting that his name wasn't in the CIS system when I checked 5 minutes ago.
I have no idea if he has his job back, but if the decision has not even been publicised by the union, then I highly doubt that it has occurred.
Interesting that his name wasn't in the CIS system when I checked 5 minutes ago.
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Twiggs
You are so determined that he is found guilty and I wanted to post this before you left work to go home.
http://www.airc.gov.au/decisionssign...007airc360.htm
Here is the web page for the decision handed down by the airc in this matter.
If this link does not work then go to the airc web site and look for decisions and there it is Twiggsy .....
It makes very interesting reading especially if you know the characters....
Quote from twiggsy "if the decision has not even been publicised by the union, then I highly doubt that it has occurred"
twiggsy your WRONG AGAIN.....but at least like the company you are consistent
You are so determined that he is found guilty and I wanted to post this before you left work to go home.
http://www.airc.gov.au/decisionssign...007airc360.htm
Here is the web page for the decision handed down by the airc in this matter.
If this link does not work then go to the airc web site and look for decisions and there it is Twiggsy .....
It makes very interesting reading especially if you know the characters....
Quote from twiggsy "if the decision has not even been publicised by the union, then I highly doubt that it has occurred"
twiggsy your WRONG AGAIN.....but at least like the company you are consistent
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Well what a good result for him, well done to his defence team.
And for Lowerlobe, finally you provide the evidence that changes your statements from gossip to fact.
I was not wrong, as you so joyfully proclaim.
I never claimed he had lost the case, only that he had removed company stores from the aircraft in breach of company policy, something which was never disputed.
I only disputed your claims of victory due to lack of evidence to the contrary.
Now that you have provided that, we can congratulate the bloke.
And for Lowerlobe, finally you provide the evidence that changes your statements from gossip to fact.
I was not wrong, as you so joyfully proclaim.
I never claimed he had lost the case, only that he had removed company stores from the aircraft in breach of company policy, something which was never disputed.
I only disputed your claims of victory due to lack of evidence to the contrary.
Now that you have provided that, we can congratulate the bloke.
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After just trawling thru the decision by Drake at the AIRC..........I feel sick
that all parties have invested so much time, energy, effort and $$$$$$ ............for what------some chocolates and biscuits.!!!
why why why why WHY WHY...????????????
This is yet another appalling example of management( burp) Qantas style.
It is another disgraceful example of the way this company treats its front line staff.
I am not condoning the stealing of Company stores, but to handle a case like this in such a public manner -defies belief.
Surely, it could of been handled internally.
"No, lets show all the world what a bunch of low life thieving turds we have as Qantas Cabin Crew!!!!!" -ST,AW, AB, FBS,et al.
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU IN THE QCC/QCA MANAGEMENT COMPOUND
that all parties have invested so much time, energy, effort and $$$$$$ ............for what------some chocolates and biscuits.!!!why why why why WHY WHY...????????????
This is yet another appalling example of management( burp) Qantas style.
It is another disgraceful example of the way this company treats its front line staff.
I am not condoning the stealing of Company stores, but to handle a case like this in such a public manner -defies belief.
Surely, it could of been handled internally.
"No, lets show all the world what a bunch of low life thieving turds we have as Qantas Cabin Crew!!!!!" -ST,AW, AB, FBS,et al.
SHAME ON ALL OF YOU IN THE QCC/QCA MANAGEMENT COMPOUND
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............for what------some chocolates and biscuits.!!
I am not condoning the stealing of Company stores, but to handle a case like this in such a public manner -defies belief.
I am not condoning the stealing of Company stores, but to handle a case like this in such a public manner -defies belief.
Yes that's right Stubby and so much wasted time and effort over such a trivial matter. 
Made fools of themselves yet again. 
I would like to suggest guys n gals that we have a whip around and purchase a box of Patons chocolate macadamias for our esteemed "management" team as a gesture of goodwill and to let bygones be bygones. I'm currently on LSL however if someone could arrange to buy some from the on board duty free stock I'd be more than happy to contribute..........and please don't forget to obtain the crew discount. 
And thanks lowerlobe for posting the airc link. Twiggs that must have really hurt.
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Frozo,
For the record, I usually agree with your posts, but here I have to say 'read the decision' - closely.
But to sum up for you:
There was no theft. As a result, there is no line to be drawn.
Qantas was found to have had a reasonable case to discipline the F/A only with respect to his lax attitude to certain policies.
But if you do want to go on a line-drawing exercise, the decision states that, with respect to discplining him for his attitude to certain policies, the Company does indeed have discretion in the measure of discipline it hands out - it does not have to dismiss. "Will' and "may" are used in the same clause of the policy so there is clear, deliberate allowance for discretion.
For the record, I usually agree with your posts, but here I have to say 'read the decision' - closely.
But to sum up for you:
There was no theft. As a result, there is no line to be drawn.
Qantas was found to have had a reasonable case to discipline the F/A only with respect to his lax attitude to certain policies.
But if you do want to go on a line-drawing exercise, the decision states that, with respect to discplining him for his attitude to certain policies, the Company does indeed have discretion in the measure of discipline it hands out - it does not have to dismiss. "Will' and "may" are used in the same clause of the policy so there is clear, deliberate allowance for discretion.
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Regardless of the individual merits of this particular case, do we all agree that theft is theft and it should be treated the same no matter who it is, their stature in the company, or how much the value is?
Theft pisses me off big time.
M.P.
Theft pisses me off big time.
M.P.