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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 02:41
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717 Flap retraction

As an ATPL and someone who travels on 717's regulary I am curious to know why landing flap (leading and trailing)is not retracted until the aircraft almost comes to a stop on the bay.

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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 02:49
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Flap 25 ( which gives full LEDs ) is the flap setting for evac so the pax can slide down the wing onto the flap and onto the grd with minimal damage.
Of course, real aeroplanes have o/wing slides....................................

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Nice try Cunning. Flap 18 is left out until almost parked to provide FOD protection for the super hairdryers, less they get damaged and blow up later on...
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less they get damaged and blow up later on
Like the one in Newman
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18, 25, wots 7 degrees between friends.

At jet* ( at least thats wot I was told ) it was incase we needed to get people out in a hurry, thats why we left them down til almost on the bay.

FOD from the mains at taxi speed
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Originally Posted by Rate1
I am curious to know why landing flap (leading and trailing)is not retracted until the aircraft almost comes to a stop on the bay.
Originally Posted by B717 FCOM - AFTER LANDING PROCEDURE
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Flaps/Slats - Move FLAP/SLAT handle to 18° detent.
NOTE: Flaps/slats should be in the 18/EXT position for taxi-in to
minimize foreign object ingestion.
Originally Posted by B717 FCOM - PARKING PROCEDURE
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FLAP/SLAT Handle - Move FLAP/SLAT handle to UP/RET prior to gate parking
position. Verify flaps move to zero.
Flap/Slat lever selects slats extend first on extension cycle, and slats retract last on retraction cycle (Flap 0/Retract > Slats Extend > Flap 13 > Flap 18 > Flap 25 > Flap 40)
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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 12:34
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geez cunninglinguist, didn't you read your FCOM?
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Old 22nd Jul 2007, 15:52
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FOD from the mains at taxi speed
With Speedy Pete driving, MBO!

geez cunninglinguist, didn't you read your FCOM?
What's an FCOM?
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What's an MBO?
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Ah ..bloggsie ..you can never go back to your beloved quadropuff now! BAe have worked out how to make money when they don't make aircraft. Make aircraft manuals! All MOM (Manufacturer Operating Manual) are now to be FCOM.

Want a job rewriting 146P?
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MBO
=My Bloody Oath.
Want a job rewriting 146P?
Not necessary No 96, 146P was and still is streets ahead of anything the Poms could produce. Still, I suppose it will give a few people a warm and fuzzy feeling to be using an FCOM. Ooo, I love my FCOM...

Naughty Dobby! Get back on thread!
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i'll third that, wots an FCOM

Think I've listened to too many old wives tales, like waiting for some magical N2 figure before fuel on and leaving the APU start switch in " on " ( or was it run )for 30 secs before starting
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