Toothpaste Terrorism?
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Quote....Come on, why does a zip-lock make all the difference?
Mate,..its like a Condom....nothing is supposed to leak out....
was in Philly yesterday myself....I feel your pain....can you feel the brotherly love...PB
Mate,..its like a Condom....nothing is supposed to leak out....
was in Philly yesterday myself....I feel your pain....can you feel the brotherly love...PB
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Mate of mine flying from Wellington NZ to Melbourne on his 50th birthday got a bottle of red wine confiscated. It was a present given to him at the airport after he had already checked in his baggage so he could only carry it in his cabin luggage.
He tried to explain to the securiy that the bottle top seal was still intact and, therefore, it couldn't possibly have been tampered with, but to no avail.
We should have stopped there and then and drunk the bl??*dy bottle but it was 0530 and I couldn't quite force myself to drink half a bottle of plonk at that hour of the morning.
He tried to explain to the securiy that the bottle top seal was still intact and, therefore, it couldn't possibly have been tampered with, but to no avail.
We should have stopped there and then and drunk the bl??*dy bottle but it was 0530 and I couldn't quite force myself to drink half a bottle of plonk at that hour of the morning.
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So is there any real proof this silly game has any safety benefit at all?
And yes, why not every one plan a united protest accross the globe, everyone whinges about it, and so far I can not see any proof its a real issue. So instead of complaining do something.
SQ
And yes, why not every one plan a united protest accross the globe, everyone whinges about it, and so far I can not see any proof its a real issue. So instead of complaining do something.
SQ
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Quote....So is there any real proof this silly game has any safety benefit at all?
yeah mate it does...it keeps these security mongrels off the streets.......
opps sorry
didnt want to sound mean or anything,dont want to upset anyone.
mate...I think it tries to keep the average joker in check for sure,the security blokes never have to worry about toilet supplies for the rest of their days...and it has meant that the govt can boast of "creating jobs".......you and I know better...anyone with half a clue could have his/her way with the current system
....got tired of fighting it...now its Co-operate and Graduate
yeah mate it does...it keeps these security mongrels off the streets.......
opps sorry
didnt want to sound mean or anything,dont want to upset anyone.mate...I think it tries to keep the average joker in check for sure,the security blokes never have to worry about toilet supplies for the rest of their days...and it has meant that the govt can boast of "creating jobs".......you and I know better...anyone with half a clue could have his/her way with the current system
....got tired of fighting it...now its Co-operate and Graduate
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The latest ridiculous blow in this hysteria here... it seems nothing is sacrosanct any more. What's gutting though is that this is all a product of the post-9/11 hysteria and 'fortress America' mentality. The rest of us are supposed to just fall into line. Bizarre.
Bring on the civil disobedience campaign, I say.
Bring on the civil disobedience campaign, I say.
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Quote... Bring on the civil disobedience campaign, I say.
Been there ,done that(as selwyn would say).....and as I remeber,the Chief Pilot gave me and the Co-Pilot......7 days off,without pay,a letter in the file(for 2 years) and a tounge-lashing....loved every minute of it......
Been there ,done that(as selwyn would say).....and as I remeber,the Chief Pilot gave me and the Co-Pilot......7 days off,without pay,a letter in the file(for 2 years) and a tounge-lashing....loved every minute of it......
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ROFPML 
Ahhh... the hazards of individual protest! What's needed is a concerted protest by crews & travelling public in concert against these increasingly intrusive 'security measures' administered by the knuckle-draggers aluded to earlier.
Ahhh... the hazards of individual protest! What's needed is a concerted protest by crews & travelling public in concert against these increasingly intrusive 'security measures' administered by the knuckle-draggers aluded to earlier.
Once this farce spreads to domestic flights, and it will, just keep checking your bag in. With 40minute transits it's going to play havoc with on time departures and airlines may sit up, take notice and try and get exemptions for crew, as they rightly should.
Do I really believe that will happen? No. Am I still gonna try? Yep. 
I simply can't understand the logic in subjecting flight crew to this sort of screening. Sure, send us through metal detectors (as long as there's a crew lane), I know the public like to see us getting screened but I really don't think it's necessary to subject us to the same LAG restrictions.
When it comes to the crunch - I'm going to say this extremely HYPOTHETICALLY - if we wanted to take an aeroplane down there are far simpler and more effective ways for a pilot to do so.
R.I.P. Common Sense.
Do I really believe that will happen? No.
Am I still gonna try? Yep. I simply can't understand the logic in subjecting flight crew to this sort of screening. Sure, send us through metal detectors (as long as there's a crew lane), I know the public like to see us getting screened but I really don't think it's necessary to subject us to the same LAG restrictions.
When it comes to the crunch - I'm going to say this extremely HYPOTHETICALLY - if we wanted to take an aeroplane down there are far simpler and more effective ways for a pilot to do so.
R.I.P. Common Sense.
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Frankly, I do not care too hoots about the radio wave camera things, gee you can smuggle any number of dangerous items through securit that are not metallic, however those images will reveal any hidden objects.
That is far more sensible secuirty step than the toothpaste tube issues discussed here.
Of course some of you may have reasons to fear it
. Me, when you aint got much there's nothing to hide
SQ
That is far more sensible secuirty step than the toothpaste tube issues discussed here.
Of course some of you may have reasons to fear it
. Me, when you aint got much there's nothing to hideSQ
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Excuse the ignorance in this, im only a lowly SPL holder, but as a pilot, do you get a penalty from the company for your aircraft leaving late?
If not, then inconvenience the company and public by obliging the security guards and making sure everything is correct.
In other words, delay your flight (knock-on effect from YOUR delay at security.) If your flights are leaving consistentely late, then the company and public are going to get even more frustrated by pointless security checks.
Don't forget to blame the lateness on the security check of course.
If not, then inconvenience the company and public by obliging the security guards and making sure everything is correct.
In other words, delay your flight (knock-on effect from YOUR delay at security.) If your flights are leaving consistentely late, then the company and public are going to get even more frustrated by pointless security checks.
Don't forget to blame the lateness on the security check of course.
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I go along with kiwiblue and call for "Bring on the civil disobedience campaign".....
How dare they suggest that aircrew submit to security checks...what will they think of next....
How dare they suggest that aircrew submit to security checks...what will they think of next....
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QSK?,
I think the course of action - to ensure the appropriate knuckle-dragger didn't get to guzzle any of the plonk - would've been to excuse one's self, take the bottle to the lav, empty it, bring it back and, whilst looking the dragger right in the eye, with a wry grin on face, hand him the empty bottle and say "here you go mate". If in a group, one of you goes & empties it whilst the others take their very good time removing shoes, jackets, etc.
So you're not actually holding the line up, you're complying, just slowly. And you have safety in numbers against the other punters.
Actually you could've put another liquid in the bottle while you were in the lav and then handed it over...
I think the course of action - to ensure the appropriate knuckle-dragger didn't get to guzzle any of the plonk - would've been to excuse one's self, take the bottle to the lav, empty it, bring it back and, whilst looking the dragger right in the eye, with a wry grin on face, hand him the empty bottle and say "here you go mate". If in a group, one of you goes & empties it whilst the others take their very good time removing shoes, jackets, etc.
So you're not actually holding the line up, you're complying, just slowly. And you have safety in numbers against the other punters.
Actually you could've put another liquid in the bottle while you were in the lav and then handed it over...
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That has to be the best bit of advice on PPRuNE I have seen in months.
Do you speak from experience?
SQ
Actually you could've put another liquid in the bottle while you were in the lav and then handed it over...
Do you speak from experience?
SQ
hurrah
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Told him to get fvck@d and left him standing at the x-ray with his mouth open. His offsider comes after me and chases me down and starts with the "No no no no" BS. " You must put it in you checked baggage". "I aint got no checked baggage dipsh!t says I, and walked off. Nothing more said or done.
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Squawk6969,
No but I'm going to keep it in mind going forward!
"You can't take that bottle of apple juice through security, sir, it's too big"; "ok well I guess I'd better leave it here"
Thanks. Here to help, mate, here to help.
No but I'm going to keep it in mind going forward!
"You can't take that bottle of apple juice through security, sir, it's too big"; "ok well I guess I'd better leave it here"
Thanks. Here to help, mate, here to help.
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Wer'e not happy little vegemites
Can anyone confirm that the humble auzzie icon is illegal to be taken into the USA due to the high level of vitamin B.. Better not turn up at the gates with rosy cheeks