Physics removed from entry criteria by the Big Red (Merged)
Education.
I love this topic. Perhaps the airlines should stipulate one should know how to calculate Sine, Cos and Tan and then for the physics requirement one should be able to recall Newton’s first and third law of motion.
With those requirements in place the minimum requirements could be a Year 9 standard of education. This would then allow the uneducated to qualify for the airlines. Of course the airlines should then pay over 250K for an uneducated Capt. to fly from A to B.
You guys should look around you, all American airlines require a degree, most airline cadet courses require their cadets to have a tertiary education. I would say QANTAS is the exception. The average pilot in the UK would have as a minimum ‘A’ levels in English; Math’s and Physics a standard higher than our HSC.
Although there are, or were pilots flying in QF and CX ex WW11 types with an Intermediate Level of education there is little justification for maintaining that standard.
Times have changed; most industries require a higher level of education, the only exception being aviation in Australia. Little wonder that management has such little respect for our profession or should I say trade?
With those requirements in place the minimum requirements could be a Year 9 standard of education. This would then allow the uneducated to qualify for the airlines. Of course the airlines should then pay over 250K for an uneducated Capt. to fly from A to B.
You guys should look around you, all American airlines require a degree, most airline cadet courses require their cadets to have a tertiary education. I would say QANTAS is the exception. The average pilot in the UK would have as a minimum ‘A’ levels in English; Math’s and Physics a standard higher than our HSC.
Although there are, or were pilots flying in QF and CX ex WW11 types with an Intermediate Level of education there is little justification for maintaining that standard.
Times have changed; most industries require a higher level of education, the only exception being aviation in Australia. Little wonder that management has such little respect for our profession or should I say trade?
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Righto, first:
Vector Diagram: Crosswind on takeoff? Angle and velocity is it not?
Yeah I know everyone memorises 30, 45 and 60 degress but I'm playing devil's advocate.
Secondly: What's this about no such thing as step-flying or getting on the front of the curve. Been a while since I hung around GA instrucors (or was one), wot's being taught these days?
I always thought it was an accurate description of drag vs. pwr avail curves, is this not the conventional wisdom?
Always FELT like the truth in a heavy old Chieftain or the like...
Got yr 12 Physics? yep
Think it's NECESSARY? nope.
Vector Diagram: Crosswind on takeoff? Angle and velocity is it not?
Yeah I know everyone memorises 30, 45 and 60 degress but I'm playing devil's advocate.
Secondly: What's this about no such thing as step-flying or getting on the front of the curve. Been a while since I hung around GA instrucors (or was one), wot's being taught these days?
I always thought it was an accurate description of drag vs. pwr avail curves, is this not the conventional wisdom?
Always FELT like the truth in a heavy old Chieftain or the like...
Got yr 12 Physics? yep
Think it's NECESSARY? nope.
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Can't help myself so will say it again, this time more simply!.
The attitudes of people like Mr TOS degrade the profession of pilot. Poorly educated employees with few aspirations of improving their mental capabilities have a lower understanding of the way the world works, and a lower ability to organise themselves into an effective employee group.
Mr TOS, I wouldn't employ you as a pilot (or in any other position) with that attitude.
There may be a current shortage of pilots, but if you are not prepared to open your mind and continue learning, you may not ever get that first airline job, let alone that command.
MBA747 you are right! Pilots need to act like professionals and be professionals to earn respect (and decent pay and conditions).
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The attitudes of people like Mr TOS degrade the profession of pilot. Poorly educated employees with few aspirations of improving their mental capabilities have a lower understanding of the way the world works, and a lower ability to organise themselves into an effective employee group.
Mr TOS, I wouldn't employ you as a pilot (or in any other position) with that attitude.
There may be a current shortage of pilots, but if you are not prepared to open your mind and continue learning, you may not ever get that first airline job, let alone that command.
MBA747 you are right! Pilots need to act like professionals and be professionals to earn respect (and decent pay and conditions).
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I am sorry that i don't meet your IQ level Seabreeze. This thread was created for aspiring airline pilots like myself. I was just passing on a rumor that i heard. The message i was trying to get across was that if you didn't study physics during your HSC it certantly will not limit you in terms of becoming an airline pilot. It's not the end of the world and there are plenty of other airlines out there.
