NJS goes TWU?
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NJS goes TWU?
Little bird tells me that 140 paid up memberships from National Jet pilots have rolled up at the WA branch of the TWU in the last three weeks. Anyone confirm? And are we going to see some action from the normally reclusive natjet boys and girls 
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Go get em NJS boys and girls!
I would love to see some management butt kicked for a change.
"Due to the competitive aviation environment, pilots pay will increase 50% while management will accept a 75% pay cut. This measure will help to encourage employment of the talent required to run an airline efficiently. "
" Accountants will no longer be offered personal bonuses to reduce the wages of flight crew."
I would love to see some management butt kicked for a change.
"Due to the competitive aviation environment, pilots pay will increase 50% while management will accept a 75% pay cut. This measure will help to encourage employment of the talent required to run an airline efficiently. "
" Accountants will no longer be offered personal bonuses to reduce the wages of flight crew."
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I think the figure of 140 is a " little " inflated ( by about double ), but yes, its true.
Also heard that each pilot receives a Blue tank top with ureka stockade flag on the front, pair of stubbies, pair of tri pluggers and a beer gut with membership. ( Ok, the last item may not be reqired by some )
Not sure I can see the NJS guys/gals standing out the front of the airport, in that get up, picketing because some bag snatcher got sacked for stealing or ramming an A/C......................hang on, silly me, bag snatchers don't get sacked
At least now maybe they will see new 717 F/Os getting paid more than the honey cart driver
Also heard that each pilot receives a Blue tank top with ureka stockade flag on the front, pair of stubbies, pair of tri pluggers and a beer gut with membership. ( Ok, the last item may not be reqired by some )
Not sure I can see the NJS guys/gals standing out the front of the airport, in that get up, picketing because some bag snatcher got sacked for stealing or ramming an A/C......................hang on, silly me, bag snatchers don't get sacked
At least now maybe they will see new 717 F/Os getting paid more than the honey cart driver
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there's alot of other GA operators at Perth who's management will start feeling uncomfortably nervous.
Watch this space...
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Pity all this did'nt happen 6-7 years ago, hey Bloggsy.
Not saying the horse has bolted..........just that its disappeared over the hill, been caught by the RSPCA, put in a paddock, died of old age, been sent to Pal factory, eaten by dogs, and 5hit out the other end
Not saying the horse has bolted..........just that its disappeared over the hill, been caught by the RSPCA, put in a paddock, died of old age, been sent to Pal factory, eaten by dogs, and 5hit out the other end
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Cunning, I wouldn't say this horse has bolted.
The pilot workforce at NJS is a new beast. This is not just the twenty or thirty of the "usual suspects" that stir the pot while the remaining 150-odd jet pilots plod along.
All the different clans in the NJS pilot body have signed up for the TWU. The checkies. The ex-Ansett and ex-Australian guys. The ex-GA boys and girls. The ex-Military guys. The Wazza nostalgists. The DM aficionados.
All of them have reached into their pockets and paid FULL subs to join the TWU (not discounted one-off specials as at Easterns two years ago).
The TWU was selected for its depth of resources, for its robust and direct approach to negotiations, and not in the least for its reputation.
NJS pilots did not select a well spoken, suit and tie outfit to represent them this time. They picked muscle.
It has been amazing to see how this unification has sprung up and swung into being in such a short space of time. Pilots are normally hopeless at banding together as a group. Just goes to show the depth of feeling across all the different 'tribes' of NJS pilots.
All this over one thing -- NJS pilots did not want a pay rise, did not have any demands.
The company wanted to remove CPI indexing from existing pilot contracts and introduce B scale. They were told in no uncertain terms that the latter was undesireable, and the former completely unacceptable. This was ignored, and the result is not dissimilar to poking a snake with a stick.
All the NJS pilots wanted was to keep their existing terms and conditions, and for their new colleagues to enjoy the same. They didn't want thousands of dollars extra per year due to the 'pilot shortage'. Not being greedy.
Watch this space!
The pilot workforce at NJS is a new beast. This is not just the twenty or thirty of the "usual suspects" that stir the pot while the remaining 150-odd jet pilots plod along.
All the different clans in the NJS pilot body have signed up for the TWU. The checkies. The ex-Ansett and ex-Australian guys. The ex-GA boys and girls. The ex-Military guys. The Wazza nostalgists. The DM aficionados.
All of them have reached into their pockets and paid FULL subs to join the TWU (not discounted one-off specials as at Easterns two years ago).
The TWU was selected for its depth of resources, for its robust and direct approach to negotiations, and not in the least for its reputation.
NJS pilots did not select a well spoken, suit and tie outfit to represent them this time. They picked muscle.
It has been amazing to see how this unification has sprung up and swung into being in such a short space of time. Pilots are normally hopeless at banding together as a group. Just goes to show the depth of feeling across all the different 'tribes' of NJS pilots.
All this over one thing -- NJS pilots did not want a pay rise, did not have any demands.
The company wanted to remove CPI indexing from existing pilot contracts and introduce B scale. They were told in no uncertain terms that the latter was undesireable, and the former completely unacceptable. This was ignored, and the result is not dissimilar to poking a snake with a stick.
All the NJS pilots wanted was to keep their existing terms and conditions, and for their new colleagues to enjoy the same. They didn't want thousands of dollars extra per year due to the 'pilot shortage'. Not being greedy.
Watch this space!
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All I can say is good luck ITCZ, traditionally once you lose something you never get it back and I don't like your chances of getting rid of B scale which is really a watershed for NJS.
Last I heard there were 40 odd in the TWU, if the other 100 have joined in the last 2 weeks then great.
I think it goes without saying the TWU or any union for that matter can do absolutely nothing without the backing of the pilots as a majority, that is where I think you will have problems.
Sincerely wish you and the others all the best.
Last I heard there were 40 odd in the TWU, if the other 100 have joined in the last 2 weeks then great.
I think it goes without saying the TWU or any union for that matter can do absolutely nothing without the backing of the pilots as a majority, that is where I think you will have problems.
Sincerely wish you and the others all the best.
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excellent post ITCZ. I am detecting a threshold has been crossed by vb/qf and now njs, the momentum is becoming self-reinforcing.
The line in the sand has been crossed & forced their crews to become radicalized. The era of greed and pursuit of profit & bonuses via unsustainable practices for pilots has reached a turning point. These operators only have themselves to blame.
The line in the sand has been crossed & forced their crews to become radicalized. The era of greed and pursuit of profit & bonuses via unsustainable practices for pilots has reached a turning point. These operators only have themselves to blame.
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ITCZ,
Perhaps you could suggest to the TWU that they jump on pprune and tell all interested what they can do for the guys at Perth.
A few friends are flying on the north side of the airport that are watching this thread with extreme interest, perhaps more memberships would follow ?.
Perhaps you could suggest to the TWU that they jump on pprune and tell all interested what they can do for the guys at Perth.
A few friends are flying on the north side of the airport that are watching this thread with extreme interest, perhaps more memberships would follow ?.
Cunning,
its over 100 and it all happened in two weeks. Numbers are increasing by the day. that says it all in my book
Shed dog,
they have the link to this site and will make themsleves known before I long I suggest.
its over 100 and it all happened in two weeks. Numbers are increasing by the day. that says it all in my book
Shed dog,
they have the link to this site and will make themsleves known before I long I suggest.
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Well XR are already with the TWU, National jet shortly, would be nice for other pilots to follow. What this could mean, is that all perth based pilots are negotiating together for better t&c's. Instead of each operator comparing t&c's for similar a/c types when in comes to negotiations, everyone will be on the same page and we can work together to improve t&c's. (hope i made sense).
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Thats all well and good guys, a nice warm fuzzy feeling etc.
But when the TWU goes to NJ management for example, and asks for more money, better conditions etc and the std answer of " the contract is already cut to the bone " or " cobham are already taking less than half the profit they want " or whatever other crap the CIA come up with, what happens then ??
Does the TWU guy, take his tanky off and wack one of the CIA until you get a payrise?? I think not.
Remember how the TWU got where they are, WRT conditions for there members etc, mainly by going on strike or go slows, that sort of thing.
Will be interseting to see what happens considering NJS pilots would'nt even stick together on the not working on days off thing some years ago.
Joining the TWU is one thing, taking action is another.
We will continue this discussion in 12 months.
Good luck ( sincerely )
But when the TWU goes to NJ management for example, and asks for more money, better conditions etc and the std answer of " the contract is already cut to the bone " or " cobham are already taking less than half the profit they want " or whatever other crap the CIA come up with, what happens then ??
Does the TWU guy, take his tanky off and wack one of the CIA until you get a payrise?? I think not.
Remember how the TWU got where they are, WRT conditions for there members etc, mainly by going on strike or go slows, that sort of thing.
Will be interseting to see what happens considering NJS pilots would'nt even stick together on the not working on days off thing some years ago.
Joining the TWU is one thing, taking action is another.
We will continue this discussion in 12 months.
Good luck ( sincerely )
Cunning,
you are right, only time will tell.
We can't do any worse than our friends in Jokestar etc.
Maybe with a few of the pilots who are overly self interested gone, the current political climate, the shortage of suitable pilots, a change of representation, the OWS prosecuting the company with significant fines, pilots have simply had enough of the current management they MAY stand up and say enough. Most importantly they are not seeking a huge pay rise, simply status quo.
The group has taken the first step and asked for aggressive representation.
you are right, only time will tell.
We can't do any worse than our friends in Jokestar etc.
Maybe with a few of the pilots who are overly self interested gone, the current political climate, the shortage of suitable pilots, a change of representation, the OWS prosecuting the company with significant fines, pilots have simply had enough of the current management they MAY stand up and say enough. Most importantly they are not seeking a huge pay rise, simply status quo.
The group has taken the first step and asked for aggressive representation.
Whispering "T" Jet
Agreed cunninglinguist. A union is only as strong as it's members and when the time comes to stand up on an issue, you had better all be united. If not, you would be just as well served by the Bankstown Bowling Club members committee.
RENURPP. How will the TWU provide the group with "aggressive representation"?
RENURPP. How will the TWU provide the group with "aggressive representation"?