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Old 11th May 2007, 05:32
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dont you mean the IAAA .
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Old 11th May 2007, 05:53
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So it is mearly the completion of year 12 they are looking at rather than any 'standard' of results? I'm also in the position where I attended and finished year 12 but failed 2 subjects. In that case it still would suffice hoss by the sounds of it?
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Old 11th May 2007, 10:29
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For what it's worth I started at Eastern 3 years ago with only year 11 under my belt. Left school in the late eighties so I don't see what difference a 3 week crash course in cramming would made to my abilities, or lack there of...
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Old 11th May 2007, 10:34
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Danger

The only reason the minimums were dropped is to permit cadets to fly as FOs. They're in sunstate now and easterns very soon.
Bet not too many non cadets with such low hours get in.
Don't get yer hopes up. This is just more hypocrisy from the dark side.

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Old 11th May 2007, 15:35
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Got a call and non-cadet
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Old 12th May 2007, 05:31
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MUNT, I personally know an ex-AN pilot who got through the sim evaluation in 01/02 for mainline, but was told to go and do the bridging course before he could be employed. They really wanted to employ the guy, but were hamstrung by previous HSC requirements and told him so at the time. He is now in the sandpit.
You may well be correct, the pool may be shrinking. I am just pointing out what has occurred previously.
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Old 12th May 2007, 09:19
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Sorry, but I'm pretty sure none of the freshly graduated QF cadets would have either 700 TT or 250 ME. Although there's a whole lot of changes going on with recruitment at the moment (and clearly, taking on cadets is part of that - in fact this was explicitly stated in a recent memo), you simply cannot say they have dropped the minimums in order to allow cadets to fly.

At the end of the day - they can allow anyone to fly (as long as they have the right piece of paper). All this does is change the number of people who get in the door for testing. I know a bunch of guys with a few thousand hours who didn't get an interview under the old requirements. Willing to bet they'll be just as many who get a job with only the new minimum in the book.
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Old 12th May 2007, 14:21
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People should see this for what it truely is. An attempt to maintain the downward pressure on T's & C's in a tight pilot recruiting environment. Those that think it is a good thing a kidding themselves because at the end of the day it only makes things easier for management. The same goes for the HSC requirement. Open the fload gates and watch your pay packet evapourate.

All this is, is a cynical move by your management to artificially control supply and demand of pilot numbers. Think about it.
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Old 12th May 2007, 16:31
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777,
In between old and new. Have turbine and multicrew time over 5700kg just not the 500 multi (yet but should have it shortly).

Anyone any goss on the interview? Wondering how i am supposed to fly a jet in an interview never having even sat in one....
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Old 13th May 2007, 03:11
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404 is correct.

By halving the minimum requirements they have doubled the rate at which GA can pump out applicants who meet them.

Pilot shortage? What pilot shortage?!
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Old 13th May 2007, 06:28
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It's a new management strategy.

We can effectively reduce the number of experienced pilot leaving Qlink if we only employ inexperienced pilots to begin with. If we don't carry a stock ef experience, we can't very well lose it can we.!?!?!?!

Now that's an idea worth a productivity bonus. Expect a roadshow soon followed by power point presentation coming soon to a crewroom near you.
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Old 13th May 2007, 07:30
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definately co-pilto endoresment

It has probably been covered already but incase it hasn't, the endoresment you pay for is definately a co-pilot one despite what some were told in interviews, I have it stamped in my log book. The management didn't even have the correct infomation in the interview, but it is definately only co-pilot
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Old 13th May 2007, 11:29
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Roost,

It was a co-pilot endo, but with these new hour reqs the new FOs will need a command endo (so they can log ICUS).
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Old 13th May 2007, 11:46
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You need more than just a command type rating to log ICUS.

PILOT FLYING is NOT the same as COMMAND.
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Old 13th May 2007, 17:56
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SO its Q-link still a good place to be?
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Old 13th May 2007, 21:02
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If you want to fly a reasonable turboprop with pretty good training and good crew then it's fine. If you're after the big $$/or a shot at jets, do your time and then move on. Lots of exQ'link crew in SE Asia and beyond.
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Old 14th May 2007, 03:17
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Munt,

When I am training captains, they sit in the LH seat, do all the captain stuff under my supervision.

If they're in the RHS, they're the co-pilot - not acting ICUS.

You would have to be assigned the authority to act in command by the company, have completed the appropriate command training course, and operate as if you were the captain - usually with a supervisory/training/check captain in the RHS - until you were checked to line as a captain.

You just don't fly in the RHS with a command rating in hand - and log it as 'command'.

If people do do that - it just devalues the concept of command experience.
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Old 14th May 2007, 04:12
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Well said Jet_A_knight

I said something along those lines earlier but no one seemed to believe me
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Old 14th May 2007, 04:53
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The new FOs will not be logging ICUS (even if they have a command endo) - the company manual states that all FOs will only log co-pilot unless they are undergoing training for command upgrade.

The most recent courses have all done co-pilot endos.

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Old 14th May 2007, 05:16
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If they are issuing copilot endorsements then how come Virgin and Jetstar insist that everyone has command endorsements? I thought it was a requirement that the FO has a command endorsement if the captain became ill. Or is it only a requirement if it suits if them to be a requirement?
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