And so it begins!
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And so it begins!
Qantaslink Minimum Experience:
700 hours total flying time.
250 hours Command or Co-Pilot of multi-engined, fixed wing aircraft (excluding ICUS).
Turbine experience is desirable but not compulsory.
700 hours total flying time.
250 hours Command or Co-Pilot of multi-engined, fixed wing aircraft (excluding ICUS).
Turbine experience is desirable but not compulsory.
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6th of May Year 2010
Minimum experience requirements:
Total time - 40 hrs
Command - 10
Night - 0
Licence Type - GFPT or higher
Only applicants willing to commit for a minimum of 1 year need apply.
Minimum experience requirements:
Total time - 40 hrs
Command - 10
Night - 0
Licence Type - GFPT or higher
Only applicants willing to commit for a minimum of 1 year need apply.
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.............Business Class travel to Sydney and four nights accomodation at the Grand Hyatt Executive Suite.
Transfers to interview and psychometric areas by private limosine.
Your choice of fleet.
Salary $250,000 with annual 9.5% increase for 3 years.
CA with union of your choice. Company would prefer AWA but we don't want to upset you.
Transfers to interview and psychometric areas by private limosine.
Your choice of fleet.
Salary $250,000 with annual 9.5% increase for 3 years.
CA with union of your choice. Company would prefer AWA but we don't want to upset you.
According to our glorious leader, the experience levels in the company are far in excess of what is required for our operation. After all we're only flying little prop planes (Albeit up to 6 sectors per day, half into CTAFs without precision approaches).
While I do not doubt/ hope that pilots who make it through the recruitment process will be up to the task, it is pathetic, as previously mentioned, that the pay-to-work scheme hasn't been dropped.
Every notice we get from the company seems to contain the sentence "As always, safety is our first priority" or words to that effect. Yeah right
While I do not doubt/ hope that pilots who make it through the recruitment process will be up to the task, it is pathetic, as previously mentioned, that the pay-to-work scheme hasn't been dropped.
Every notice we get from the company seems to contain the sentence "As always, safety is our first priority" or words to that effect. Yeah right
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They ain't really hurting till they take direct entry commands!
Then and only then, might they do away with 'pay as you go' endorsements...
Then and only then, might they do away with 'pay as you go' endorsements...
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The good candidates will still be good whether they have 1500 hours or 3000 hours - lowering the minimums means QLink are more likely to get the good guys before they get snapped up by Rex, Pel Air, or somebody else.
They're simply screening the available market of pilots upstream of their competition.
They're simply screening the available market of pilots upstream of their competition.
I don't get it.
Everyone is always bitching abou the hours requirements are so high, that getting 500 multi PIC is so hard, yet when someone reduces the minimums and makes it easier to get a job everyone is bitching ?
Doesn't change the fact that in theory if you have MORE than the mins you may have better chances with someone right on the bottom, but I can't see there being a negative here? Cadets are in the RH seat with less than 300 and next to no multi?
There is no way any airline or company in any other industry will reduce minimum requirements of it's staff unless they aren't getting sufficient numbers of application that meet their criteria, if they aren't getting that unless they want to park a/c they have no choice but to reduce their minimums.
I agree harder on the checkies, but surely no harder than putting thru a 19 year old cadet with 300 hours?
Everyone is always bitching abou the hours requirements are so high, that getting 500 multi PIC is so hard, yet when someone reduces the minimums and makes it easier to get a job everyone is bitching ?
Doesn't change the fact that in theory if you have MORE than the mins you may have better chances with someone right on the bottom, but I can't see there being a negative here? Cadets are in the RH seat with less than 300 and next to no multi?
There is no way any airline or company in any other industry will reduce minimum requirements of it's staff unless they aren't getting sufficient numbers of application that meet their criteria, if they aren't getting that unless they want to park a/c they have no choice but to reduce their minimums.
I agree harder on the checkies, but surely no harder than putting thru a 19 year old cadet with 300 hours?
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Licensing
- Dash 8 Type Endorsement.
- Air Transport Pilot Licence Theory Pass *.
- Australian Commercial Pilot Licence.
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"They're simply screening the available market of pilots upstream of their competition."
Yes Bendo, Im of the understanding that this has been occuring for some months with guys well under the 500hrs ME CMD requirement being invited for stage 2 testing.
I think this is a smart move by their HR people myself.
Yes Bendo, Im of the understanding that this has been occuring for some months with guys well under the 500hrs ME CMD requirement being invited for stage 2 testing.
I think this is a smart move by their HR people myself.
Nunc est bibendum
Especially considering that most people with well in excess of the requirements probably wouldn't pay the money for the endorsement. This way they open the 'pool' of young, keen people who are prepared to pay for their 'first shot'.
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Take a look at the mining industry. They haven't reduced qualifications required. They have raised salaries to attract qualified workers.
I promise you that the day I started in mining (with the same company I had previously been Chief Pilot for) I started with no quals or relevant experience and I doubled my wages overnight.
You cannot lower minimum qualifications from Zero for mining technicians, or a trades certificate for tradesmen. Doesn't matter if the ink is still wet on that certificate either - it's like QF taking SO's straight out of flying school with a bare CPL.
Can you imagine doing a 3-year Electricians apprenticeship after finishing year 10, and then at 19 starting on a salary of $90,000?
Mining is a dead-end job for morons. I no coz I are wun.
Keg I agree it's crap. But without a powerful union which we simply don't have that stopped all pilots from applying for jobs for say 6 months and forcing the airlines to drop their charging for endorsements what choice do people have if they want to progress.
Unless everyone stops and only waits for QF every other major operator is charging for endorsements. One person can't make a difference, only a united effort will, who is willing to make that effort?
Unless everyone stops and only waits for QF every other major operator is charging for endorsements. One person can't make a difference, only a united effort will, who is willing to make that effort?
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Whilst their minimums are low by Australian standards these would be about right for a US regional airline. However the pay would be about 50% of what QLink pay.
Also found an interesting quote from the recruitment website. Ultimately pilots are to blame for pay for training as their justification is:
Why has QantasLink created such a system?
The "pay for your own endorsement" is very much an industry norm
Also found an interesting quote from the recruitment website. Ultimately pilots are to blame for pay for training as their justification is:
Why has QantasLink created such a system?
The "pay for your own endorsement" is very much an industry norm
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here you go HH
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I can tick most of the boxes apart from the basic GPS Qualifications. When I did my IREX we touched on the GPS but I dont have any stamp in my logbook. Just wandering if anyone knows what is involved, I use GPS daily flying but don't have any freakin sticker. Any info would be great, where to do it, how long, how much dough I have to cough up etc
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