QF F/A accused of having sex with passenger
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QF F/A accused of having sex with passenger
Ralph Fiennes in sex scandal
By Marnie O'Neill, The Sunday Telegraph.
http://www.news.com.au/sundaytelegra...001021,00.html
February 11, 2007 12:00
A QANTAS flight attendant faces the sack after being accused of having sex with British actor Ralph Fiennes in an aircraft toilet while flying from Australia to India.
Sydney-based Lisa Robertson, 38, met the star of The English Patient while working in the business-class cabin on flight QF 123 from Darwin to Mumbai on January 24.
In a confidential report to Qantas management obtained by The Sunday Telegraph, Ms Robertson is accused of chatting to Fiennes during the flight and being seen exiting the same toilet moments apart.
She claims Fiennes, 44, became "amorous'' towards her in the toilet.
Ms Robertson declined to comment when contacted by The Sunday Telegraph.
Qantas staff who were aware of the incident said last night the couple were caught after crew members waited outside the toilet.
In a statement lodged with her employer, Ms Robertson denied the allegations.
The statement was presented at a meeting on Thursday between Ms Robertson, the Flight Attendants' Association, Qantas and airline services contractor Morris Alexander Management.
At the meeting Qantas representatives accused Ms Robertson of having sex with Fiennes. Ms Robertson has been suspended without pay.
Fiennes had been in Australia to perform at the Sydney Festival before travelling to India.
Details of Ms Robertson's alleged encounter with Fiennes are contained in her statement to Qantas management.
It shows she has been accused of two breaches of the company's corporate and cabin-crew policies. The first breach relates to Fiennes allegedly sitting in a crew jump seat while chatting to Ms Robertson during her rest break.
The second relates to Ms Robertson and the actor being seen leaving the same toilet.
They were allegedly spotted by two crew members, who told the flight's customer-services manager. "While conversing with Mr Fiennes during my break, I expressed a need to go to the toilet,'' Ms Robertson said in her statement. "I went to the nearby toilet and entered it, he followed me and entered the same toilet. "I explained to him that this was inappropriate and asked him to leave. Mr Fiennes became amorous towards me and, after a short period of time, I convinced him to leave the toilet, which he did. "I left the toilet a short time later. At no time did any crew member come to my assistance. "At no time were any other customers aware of this incident. At no time did I put the Qantas name or reputation in jeopardy.''
In her statement, Ms Robertson admitted that Fiennes had visited her in the crew rest area during her break to chat. She also admitted having several conversations with the actor throughout the flight, but said she was simply doing her job.
"This is common practice on long flights to build a rapport with passengers and converse with them during the flight,'' Ms Robertson said in her statement. According to her statement, Ms Robertson was a police officer for 14 years before joining Qantas in September, 2004. She said she had been repeatedly commended for her service as a flight attendant.
The Flight Attendants' Association of Australia did not return calls.
A Qantas spokesman said: "All we can do is confirm that a flight attendant was stood down following an onboard incident.'' He refused to comment on whether this incident involved Fiennes, citing passenger privacy.
A copy of the flight manifest obtained by The Sunday Telegraph confirmed Fiennes was on board the flight on January 24. He occupied seat 2K in business class.
Read the hostess's full statement http://www.news.com.au/sundaytelegra...001077,00.html
By Marnie O'Neill, The Sunday Telegraph.
http://www.news.com.au/sundaytelegra...001021,00.html
February 11, 2007 12:00
A QANTAS flight attendant faces the sack after being accused of having sex with British actor Ralph Fiennes in an aircraft toilet while flying from Australia to India.
Sydney-based Lisa Robertson, 38, met the star of The English Patient while working in the business-class cabin on flight QF 123 from Darwin to Mumbai on January 24.
In a confidential report to Qantas management obtained by The Sunday Telegraph, Ms Robertson is accused of chatting to Fiennes during the flight and being seen exiting the same toilet moments apart.
She claims Fiennes, 44, became "amorous'' towards her in the toilet.
Ms Robertson declined to comment when contacted by The Sunday Telegraph.
Qantas staff who were aware of the incident said last night the couple were caught after crew members waited outside the toilet.
In a statement lodged with her employer, Ms Robertson denied the allegations.
The statement was presented at a meeting on Thursday between Ms Robertson, the Flight Attendants' Association, Qantas and airline services contractor Morris Alexander Management.
At the meeting Qantas representatives accused Ms Robertson of having sex with Fiennes. Ms Robertson has been suspended without pay.
Fiennes had been in Australia to perform at the Sydney Festival before travelling to India.
Details of Ms Robertson's alleged encounter with Fiennes are contained in her statement to Qantas management.
It shows she has been accused of two breaches of the company's corporate and cabin-crew policies. The first breach relates to Fiennes allegedly sitting in a crew jump seat while chatting to Ms Robertson during her rest break.
The second relates to Ms Robertson and the actor being seen leaving the same toilet.
They were allegedly spotted by two crew members, who told the flight's customer-services manager. "While conversing with Mr Fiennes during my break, I expressed a need to go to the toilet,'' Ms Robertson said in her statement. "I went to the nearby toilet and entered it, he followed me and entered the same toilet. "I explained to him that this was inappropriate and asked him to leave. Mr Fiennes became amorous towards me and, after a short period of time, I convinced him to leave the toilet, which he did. "I left the toilet a short time later. At no time did any crew member come to my assistance. "At no time were any other customers aware of this incident. At no time did I put the Qantas name or reputation in jeopardy.''
In her statement, Ms Robertson admitted that Fiennes had visited her in the crew rest area during her break to chat. She also admitted having several conversations with the actor throughout the flight, but said she was simply doing her job.
"This is common practice on long flights to build a rapport with passengers and converse with them during the flight,'' Ms Robertson said in her statement. According to her statement, Ms Robertson was a police officer for 14 years before joining Qantas in September, 2004. She said she had been repeatedly commended for her service as a flight attendant.
The Flight Attendants' Association of Australia did not return calls.
A Qantas spokesman said: "All we can do is confirm that a flight attendant was stood down following an onboard incident.'' He refused to comment on whether this incident involved Fiennes, citing passenger privacy.
A copy of the flight manifest obtained by The Sunday Telegraph confirmed Fiennes was on board the flight on January 24. He occupied seat 2K in business class.
Read the hostess's full statement http://www.news.com.au/sundaytelegra...001077,00.html
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Full transcript of hostess's statement
Sunday Telegraph
http://www.news.com.au/sundaytelegra...001077,00.html
February 11, 2007 12:00
ALLEGATIONS OF BREACH: STANDARDS OF CONDUCT - QF123 Darwin - Mumbai January 24, 2007.
On 30th January 2007 I received a letter from MAM Aviation Services and an attached witness report by Customer Service Manager (CSM) Nanda Najmi.
This report sets out two allegations of breaches of Qantas corporate and cabin crew policies against me, those being;
That J class passenger Ralph Fiennes seated in 2K was sitting in a crew jump seat located at R1 of the aircraft talking to me during my rest break.
That the passenger from 2K was seen to exit a toilet in the vicinity and that I was seen to exit the same toilet a short time later.
In response to these allegations I submit the following.
I am a 38 year old and prior to my employment with Qantas I was a NSW police officer for 14 years.
I am a designated detective and trained hostage negotiator, weapons instructor and lecturer at the NSW Police Academy on covert operations. I have extensive training in many facets of policing, I have studied Law for several years and I am a qualified scuba diving instructor.
I bring to Qantas years of experience in customer service having dealt with people from all walks of life. I have extensive training in communications and conflict resolutions and first aid.
I was first employed by Qantas Airway Ltd in September 2004 as a long haul flight attendant under a 3 month contract. I was then offered a position with Jetconnect and subsequently relocated to Auckland, New Zealand where I operated Qantas long haul.
In September 2006 I resigned from Jetconnect and was employed by Maurice Alexander Management (MAM), Qantas short haul. I have been trained in emergency procedures and cabin services three times by Qantas Airways Ltd and I am business/first class trained. I have completed a cultural awareness course.
During my time with Qantas long haul I received numerous excel nominations and letters of praise from passengers and other crew. I have been commended on my 'outstanding and fantastic' customer service in business class, my commitment to customer service, my 'consistent', 'delightful', 'natural' and 'enthusiastic manner' of dealing with our customers.
I have been involved in numerous on board medical emergencies involving both crew and passengers and have been commended on my assistance given on these occasions.
I have always endeavoured to act in a professional manner as a police officer and as a flight attendant.
I fully respect and understand the importance of my role as a representative and ambassador of Qantas and Australia and I am very proud of this role.
In response to the first allegation, I admit that Mr Fiennes was sitting at R1 talking to me during my rest break and that I had conversed with him several times during the flight.
This is common practice on long flights to build a rapport with passengers and converse with them during the flight. I believe it is part of the role of a flight attendant to be friendly, natural and approachable to all our passengers, regardless of their class of travel.
In response to the second allegation in which Mr Fiennes and I were alleged to have been seen to exit the same toilet I submit the following.
Whilst conversing with Mr Fiennes at R1 during my break I expressed a need to go to the toilet. I went to the nearby toilet and entered it, he followed me and entered the same toilet. I explained to him that this was inappropriate and asked him to leave. Mr Fiennes became amorous towards me and after a short period of time I convinced him to leave the toilet which he did.
I left the toilet a short time later.
At no time did any crew member come to my assistance. At no time were any other customers aware of this incident. At no time did I put the Qantas name or reputation in jeopardy.
I consider myself a valuable asset to this company. I deny that my behaviour on this flight was such that my employment should be terminated
Lisa Robinson
Flight Attendant
2 February 2007
Sunday Telegraph
http://www.news.com.au/sundaytelegra...001077,00.html
February 11, 2007 12:00
ALLEGATIONS OF BREACH: STANDARDS OF CONDUCT - QF123 Darwin - Mumbai January 24, 2007.
On 30th January 2007 I received a letter from MAM Aviation Services and an attached witness report by Customer Service Manager (CSM) Nanda Najmi.
This report sets out two allegations of breaches of Qantas corporate and cabin crew policies against me, those being;
That J class passenger Ralph Fiennes seated in 2K was sitting in a crew jump seat located at R1 of the aircraft talking to me during my rest break.
That the passenger from 2K was seen to exit a toilet in the vicinity and that I was seen to exit the same toilet a short time later.
In response to these allegations I submit the following.
I am a 38 year old and prior to my employment with Qantas I was a NSW police officer for 14 years.
I am a designated detective and trained hostage negotiator, weapons instructor and lecturer at the NSW Police Academy on covert operations. I have extensive training in many facets of policing, I have studied Law for several years and I am a qualified scuba diving instructor.
I bring to Qantas years of experience in customer service having dealt with people from all walks of life. I have extensive training in communications and conflict resolutions and first aid.
I was first employed by Qantas Airway Ltd in September 2004 as a long haul flight attendant under a 3 month contract. I was then offered a position with Jetconnect and subsequently relocated to Auckland, New Zealand where I operated Qantas long haul.
In September 2006 I resigned from Jetconnect and was employed by Maurice Alexander Management (MAM), Qantas short haul. I have been trained in emergency procedures and cabin services three times by Qantas Airways Ltd and I am business/first class trained. I have completed a cultural awareness course.
During my time with Qantas long haul I received numerous excel nominations and letters of praise from passengers and other crew. I have been commended on my 'outstanding and fantastic' customer service in business class, my commitment to customer service, my 'consistent', 'delightful', 'natural' and 'enthusiastic manner' of dealing with our customers.
I have been involved in numerous on board medical emergencies involving both crew and passengers and have been commended on my assistance given on these occasions.
I have always endeavoured to act in a professional manner as a police officer and as a flight attendant.
I fully respect and understand the importance of my role as a representative and ambassador of Qantas and Australia and I am very proud of this role.
In response to the first allegation, I admit that Mr Fiennes was sitting at R1 talking to me during my rest break and that I had conversed with him several times during the flight.
This is common practice on long flights to build a rapport with passengers and converse with them during the flight. I believe it is part of the role of a flight attendant to be friendly, natural and approachable to all our passengers, regardless of their class of travel.
In response to the second allegation in which Mr Fiennes and I were alleged to have been seen to exit the same toilet I submit the following.
Whilst conversing with Mr Fiennes at R1 during my break I expressed a need to go to the toilet. I went to the nearby toilet and entered it, he followed me and entered the same toilet. I explained to him that this was inappropriate and asked him to leave. Mr Fiennes became amorous towards me and after a short period of time I convinced him to leave the toilet which he did.
I left the toilet a short time later.
At no time did any crew member come to my assistance. At no time were any other customers aware of this incident. At no time did I put the Qantas name or reputation in jeopardy.
I consider myself a valuable asset to this company. I deny that my behaviour on this flight was such that my employment should be terminated
Lisa Robinson
Flight Attendant
2 February 2007
Where is the FAAA? This should be a non-event with the employee back 'in the saddle' with full pay for the inconvenience and everything else.
Unless of course if my memory serves me correctly she has bad history. When did they do those 'secret strikebreaker' ground schools?
"I was first employed by Qantas Airway Ltd in September 2004 as a long haul flight attendant under a 3 month contract."
There is a difference between toilet humour and just disgusting and you crossed it
Much Ado
Unless of course if my memory serves me correctly she has bad history. When did they do those 'secret strikebreaker' ground schools?
"I was first employed by Qantas Airway Ltd in September 2004 as a long haul flight attendant under a 3 month contract."
There is a difference between toilet humour and just disgusting and you crossed it
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Of course, that this was an incident not of her making, someone (or some people) have had her guilty until proven innocent, rather than supporting her and giving her a fair hearing - well it just doesn't seem to mean much here, eh?
How did her statement become public knowledge?
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How did her statement become public knowledge?
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This is pathetic, posting the entire transcripts and reports up here like some kind of schoolies dobbing in to the teachers...
Who were the pathetic sacks of s**t waiting outside the toilet to bust her??? Jesus get a life. Probably, as already said, tragic old boilers with the cats waiting at home.
Judging from her statement, kindly and thoughtfully posted by chicken or fish, she can string a sentence together with some degree of eloquence, unlike your average bitter old hag... they should sack the useless boilers or fags who were loitering around the crappers instead of out in the cabin doing their job.
One word:
Jealousy.
Who were the pathetic sacks of s**t waiting outside the toilet to bust her??? Jesus get a life. Probably, as already said, tragic old boilers with the cats waiting at home.
Judging from her statement, kindly and thoughtfully posted by chicken or fish, she can string a sentence together with some degree of eloquence, unlike your average bitter old hag... they should sack the useless boilers or fags who were loitering around the crappers instead of out in the cabin doing their job.
One word:
Jealousy.
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Whether she did or didn't entertain in the toilet, I don't care. I'm more disappointed that obviously another staff member gave the report to a journalist and that journalist didn't even leave the woman's name out and say "a flight attendant allegedly". If she is found innocent can she sue for defamation?
Also what happened to whatever happens on tour stays on tour? It also seems to be typical of many areas in QF at the moment, people dobbing others in. I also think it is a bit harsh trying to pin breaking SOP's on her re the jumpseat conversation. Was everyone else jealous that she had his attention.
Also what happened to whatever happens on tour stays on tour? It also seems to be typical of many areas in QF at the moment, people dobbing others in. I also think it is a bit harsh trying to pin breaking SOP's on her re the jumpseat conversation. Was everyone else jealous that she had his attention.