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Old 3rd Feb 2007, 01:32
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Qantas plane forced back to Sydney

Qantas plane forced back to Sydney

From Sydney Morning Herald

February 3, 2007 - 12:45PM




A Qantas airliner has suffered a mid-air engine problem forcing it to double back to Sydney airport.
The troubled Qantas 767 plane, loaded with passengers, is yet to reach the airport but a company spokesman has denied it needs to make an emergency landing.
"It is not an emergency landing, but it will be returning to Sydney," the spokesman said.
He also denied reports that an engine on the plane had exploded mid-air.
"No it hasn't exploded at all, so there is an issue with the engine but it hasn't exploded," the spokesman said.
At 12.35pm (AEDT) the plane had not yet landed.
There are also reports the plane was dumping fuel over the Sydney suburb of Frenchs Forest.
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Walking down at Manly and a Qantas 747 400 made a loud bang a few times. Its was low about 3000 or 4000 feet and looked heavy. Thousands of people looked at the 747 wondering if it was all right. Talk of the beach for a few hours. Sounded like a sonic boom.
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The less reputable media are claiming a 767 with "denials of an explosion!", while the more credible are claiming 747 with "compressor failure".

Perhaps it inhaled a tent on takeoff...
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A B767 dumping fuel, don't think so.

It was a B747 on route LAX.
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Enroute LAX, eh?

Secret SIA operatives in action!


Deregulate! Deregulate!
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A B767 dumping fuel, don't think so.
Why not??

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Where's Sunfish..I mean Gilligan..

If the aircraft has to return why did it not fly to Mel and so give the Mel tourist economy an injection of needed cash and sales boost .
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D,

767 can only dump Centre Wing Tank Fuel (depending on options) I seem to remember. Most sectors in a 767 don't use CWT fuel anyway.

In any case, a single-engined 767 is best positioned on the ground in a timely, prompt fashion.

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Yeah the report on MSN states its a 747!

Got the types confused...
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QF149 744 OJM shutdown #3 engine due blade damage.
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A B767 dumping fuel, don't think so.

Why not??
Because you need to get back on terra firma ASAP before you run out of noise, same with most twins, not much of a future in wasting time dumping fuel or flying around burning it off.

Anyway it wasn't a 767, but a 747.
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"Because you need to get back on terra firma ASAP before you run out of noise, same with most twins, not much of a future in wasting time dumping fuel or flying around burning it off."


Not quite so. Seem to remember a SIA 777 losing an engine at V1 out of Melbourne in 2004 that was then vectored over port phillip bay for over an hour in order to dump fuel.


Sounds like the crew on QF149 carried out a completely professional response to perhaps the most practised situation in a simulator. The loss of an engine. Well done to all involved.
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Must be an awfully slow news day!!!
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Sounded like a sonic boom.
Is there any other kind? Could you describe a non-sonic boom for me?
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems...2/s1839606.htm

Passenger Brent Russell says he was shocked when he heard a loud bang.

He says the incident was frightening.

"I was kind of shocked and the stewardess acted like nothing happened and to keep everyone calm I guess and they just sat down, kept everyone calm, didn't really do a whole lot," he said.

"They got on the phone with the pilot and then the pilot came on and said there was a little problem and they're turning back."
Gee, Brent, if the cabin crew act like nothing has happened, theres probably no cause for you to be frightened...

Well done to the crew, though in reality there would have been nothing they hadnt practised every time they got in the simulator.
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
Is there any other kind? Could you describe a non-sonic boom for me?
BOOOOOOOM!!
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Why did they just press on (I hear BA do it all the time over the atlantic )

As someone said, slow day for the media

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Not quite so. Seem to remember a SIA 777 losing an engine at V1 out of Melbourne in 2004 that was then vectored over port phillip bay for over an hour in order to dump fuel.
Did you even read what I posted.

I said MOST twins, maybe SIA have different ways of doing things?

Any 767s or similar types, like A300s, I have seen it is normal to get back on the ground ASAP, one A300-600 even destroyed all the main wheels and brakes doing it, but that was preferable to risking running out of noise while airborne.
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types of boom...

1. Nautical. any of various more or less horizontal spars or poles for extending the feet of sails, esp. fore-and-aft sails, for handling cargo, suspending mooring lines alongside a vessel, pushing a vessel away from wharves, etc.
2. Aeronautics. a. an outrigger used on certain aircraft for connecting the tail surfaces to the fuselage.
b. a maneuverable and retractable pipe on a tanker aircraft for refueling another aircraft in flight.
c. chord1 (def. 4).
3. a chain, cable, series of connected floating timbers, or the like, serving to obstruct navigation, confine floating timber, etc.
4. the area thus shut off.
5. Machinery. a spar or beam projecting from the mast of a derrick for supporting or guiding the weights to be lifted.
6. (on a motion-picture or television stage) a spar or beam on a mobile crane for holding or manipulating a microphone or camera.
–verb (used with object) 7. to extend or position, as a sail (usually fol. by out or off).
8. to manipulate (an object) by or as by means of a crane or derrick.
–verb (used without object) 9. to sail at full speed.


and of course boom as in boom boom lets go back to my room.
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9. to make a deep, prolonged, resonant sound.
10. to move with a resounding rush or great impetus.
11. to progress, grow, or flourish vigorously, as a business or a city: Her business is booming since she enlarged the store.
–verb (used with object) 4. to give forth with a booming sound (often fol. by out): The clock boomed out nine.
12. to boost; campaign for vigorously: His followers are booming George for mayor.
–noun 6. a deep, prolonged, resonant sound.
13. the resonant cry of a bird or animal.
14. a buzzing, humming, or droning, as of a bee or beetle.
15. a rapid increase in price, development, numbers, etc.: a boom in housing construction.
16. a period of rapid economic growth, prosperity, high wages and prices, and relatively full employment.
17. a rise in popularity, as of a political candidate.
–adjective 12. caused by or characteristic of a boom: boom prices.
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