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RW,
Yep, you're right. It appears that Sunfish has detemined that the destruction of QF will cure his pain. Unfortunately, as I pointed out previously, this is akin to a "Cargo Cult" mentality.
I guess that I can't help thinking that we really need to separate Qantas the icon, from the people who are "managing" this national treasure at the moment. Owing to historical quirks, Qantas is the oldest, continuously operating, safest airline in the world (WWII sort of stuffed KLM). Surely it is up to us to husband this responsibility. If people don't understand that QF pilots and engineers don't realize we could lose that in a heartbeat, then they have rocks in their head.
Opposing this is an army of spreadsheet weilding accountants who believe the world conforms to the current version of XL. Unfortunately, from my experience, an accountant's view is advice only. And anyway, they'll be gone in a few years, and simply don't care.
Perhaps we need to think about the "pale blue dot" .....
Ah, what the hell.
Where's the rest of that Cabernet ..............
N
Yep, you're right. It appears that Sunfish has detemined that the destruction of QF will cure his pain. Unfortunately, as I pointed out previously, this is akin to a "Cargo Cult" mentality.
I guess that I can't help thinking that we really need to separate Qantas the icon, from the people who are "managing" this national treasure at the moment. Owing to historical quirks, Qantas is the oldest, continuously operating, safest airline in the world (WWII sort of stuffed KLM). Surely it is up to us to husband this responsibility. If people don't understand that QF pilots and engineers don't realize we could lose that in a heartbeat, then they have rocks in their head.
Opposing this is an army of spreadsheet weilding accountants who believe the world conforms to the current version of XL. Unfortunately, from my experience, an accountant's view is advice only. And anyway, they'll be gone in a few years, and simply don't care.
Perhaps we need to think about the "pale blue dot" .....
Ah, what the hell.
Where's the rest of that Cabernet ..............
N
If Qantas is such a beacon of free enterprise, why is it that the lobbied so heavily against Singapore and Emirates from increasing their direct services to Melbourne and elsewhere?
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Boys and Girls,
Sorry about this especially after my post about a certain idiot.
But I could not help myself after reading an article on the net about Jetstar Asia and it's failure to gain access to a number of destinations in China and Indonesia.
They reckon that SIA and the Singapore Government lobbied against Jetstar Asia being granted access to these ports.
Sunfish mate this kinda makes a mockery of your line that only QF protects it's backyard.
Pal the Singapore gov looks after it's own very well thanks very much.....
What's even more astounding is that SIA is Singapore centric and have gone out of their way to convince qf and other airlines to give BKK the flick in favour of Changi.
Now that there is evidence that other airlines and countries protect their own turf maybe you can shove your BS somewhere else.
Sorry about this especially after my post about a certain idiot.
But I could not help myself after reading an article on the net about Jetstar Asia and it's failure to gain access to a number of destinations in China and Indonesia.
They reckon that SIA and the Singapore Government lobbied against Jetstar Asia being granted access to these ports.
Sunfish mate this kinda makes a mockery of your line that only QF protects it's backyard.
Pal the Singapore gov looks after it's own very well thanks very much.....
What's even more astounding is that SIA is Singapore centric and have gone out of their way to convince qf and other airlines to give BKK the flick in favour of Changi.
Now that there is evidence that other airlines and countries protect their own turf maybe you can shove your BS somewhere else.
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Priapism,
Firstly I could not agree more.
Secondly, I only hope that this parliamentary support is real and not just a show pony because of the federal election later this year.
M.P's have a habit of being fair weather friends.
Firstly I could not agree more.
Secondly, I only hope that this parliamentary support is real and not just a show pony because of the federal election later this year.
M.P's have a habit of being fair weather friends.
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Indeed,
I hope the concern is not just another piece of populist vote catching.
It seems a bit of momentum is building here. My spidey senses are telling me that this sale won't get up.
I don't trust Mansfield and co.
I hope the concern is not just another piece of populist vote catching.
It seems a bit of momentum is building here. My spidey senses are telling me that this sale won't get up.
I don't trust Mansfield and co.
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Don't expect a bail-out, Vaile tells Qantas
4:00 PM February 14
Federal Transport Minister Mark Vaile has issued a warning to Qantas that the Government does not endorse airlines seeking taxpayer funded bail-outs.
Former transport minister John Anderson says he has deep reservations about the high debt level involved in the proposed $11 billion Qantas takeover.
Mr Vaile says it is not up to the Federal Government to decide debt arrangements for private companies but Qantas would carry a much higher level of debt under the proposed deal.
"As we've seen in international experience in the past where, and in our neighbourhood, where airlines have run into trouble, they often do come knocking on the Government's door and that is not something that we would like to countenance," he said.
Source: ABC
4:00 PM February 14
Federal Transport Minister Mark Vaile has issued a warning to Qantas that the Government does not endorse airlines seeking taxpayer funded bail-outs.
Former transport minister John Anderson says he has deep reservations about the high debt level involved in the proposed $11 billion Qantas takeover.
Mr Vaile says it is not up to the Federal Government to decide debt arrangements for private companies but Qantas would carry a much higher level of debt under the proposed deal.
"As we've seen in international experience in the past where, and in our neighbourhood, where airlines have run into trouble, they often do come knocking on the Government's door and that is not something that we would like to countenance," he said.
Source: ABC
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If Johnny does not win the next election I'd like to see which boards he will be on by Christmas.
Do you reckon it might be the Mac bank and as a consultant to QF and Darth?
He might be like ex Liberal premier who is on just about every board except the ironing board
Do you reckon it might be the Mac bank and as a consultant to QF and Darth?
He might be like ex Liberal premier who is on just about every board except the ironing board
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Ansett did, BIG time, i.e until the departure from this mortal coil of one of our more colorful Knights and the replay of the doing in of Julius Caesar.
Without mentioning the date of which we dare not speak, it's not often the Parliament sits and silently watches the Constitution suborned and the Military used in support of a private companies agenda.
Ansett did, BIG time, i.e until the departure from this mortal coil of one of our more colorful Knights and the replay of the doing in of Julius Caesar.
Without mentioning the date of which we dare not speak, it's not often the Parliament sits and silently watches the Constitution suborned and the Military used in support of a private companies agenda.
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And even before that Gaunty. I would consider "The two Airline Policy" as a form of government protection wouldn't you? One would argue that this form of protection made both of its beneficiaries unable to function in the real world of deregulated protectionism. Infact neither of the airlines protected by this agreement exist anymore, protection hardly made them into corporate goliaths did it? Its like having your big brother protect you from the school bully. There comes a time where your big brother isn't going to be there to hold your hand.
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Its interesting the media hasnt noticed a B747-300 VH-EBT sitting at the Jetbase, unable to fly as it is out of hours...requires a D check and what did Qantas management do recently....closed down heavy maintenance in sydney....they cant get it into anyother MRO as they are all booked.....Plua the recent 4 B747-400 that returned from having checks in Sinagpore spent 3 to 4 days on the ground AOG while bugs that were built into the D check had to be sorted out before the aircraft were airworthy to fly.....
Its interesting....Management make all these outsourcing decisions..
Change the name of QF engineering to ETOMs, which no one knew what it meant, so 2 years later, they changed it back to QF Engineering....the same manager also responsible for the outsourcing of B744 to Singapore and the closure of sydney heavy maintenance..
No accountability for QF management, only bonuses and big payoffs by APA..
Yet no media has investigated these points....
Just goes to show having J Packer on the board hides all the problems from the media...
Its interesting....Management make all these outsourcing decisions..
Change the name of QF engineering to ETOMs, which no one knew what it meant, so 2 years later, they changed it back to QF Engineering....the same manager also responsible for the outsourcing of B744 to Singapore and the closure of sydney heavy maintenance..
No accountability for QF management, only bonuses and big payoffs by APA..
Yet no media has investigated these points....
Just goes to show having J Packer on the board hides all the problems from the media...
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Hardworker,
Just maybe the APA mob know more than they have let on. If this is one of the ways in which the business is conducted, and Qantas still turns heads with its profit performances, is it any wonder that APA reckon that they can do better?
Just maybe the APA mob know more than they have let on. If this is one of the ways in which the business is conducted, and Qantas still turns heads with its profit performances, is it any wonder that APA reckon that they can do better?
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Its interesting that APA think they can make more from Qantas, the only way that would be, would to break the company into bits and sell off parts of it, hide the debt and the areas that they feel are too expensive or unprofitable and outsource the required services from that same part of the company at a lower rate!
Mean while the management take all the glory?
Yeah who would buy and old classic...
There are apparently 4 B744 also requiring D checks that will also joining VH-EBT on the ground...
another great plan by management.....
Give them all a bonus....
Mean while the management take all the glory?
Yeah who would buy and old classic...
There are apparently 4 B744 also requiring D checks that will also joining VH-EBT on the ground...
another great plan by management.....
Give them all a bonus....
Lack of capacity has been a problem for Qantas for many years, yet they let their highest capacity aircraft type deteriorate to this state! 
. . . . And then palm off 4 of their newest, longest range aircraft to the new as yet unproven/low yield/price sensitive "experiment". Some serious questions need to be asked here.
. . . . And then palm off 4 of their newest, longest range aircraft to the new as yet unproven/low yield/price sensitive "experiment". Some serious questions need to be asked here.
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Funny you should say that Bushy,
A mate in Qantas was telling me about some graffiti he saw in the overhead hatch on his aircraft.
"Qantas now the largest GA outfit in Australia"
Actually this would be funny if it wasn't true
A mate in Qantas was telling me about some graffiti he saw in the overhead hatch on his aircraft.
"Qantas now the largest GA outfit in Australia"
Actually this would be funny if it wasn't true
