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When we first started EBA negs the association was advised, we hit a brick wall with the company, and had little interest from the association, they did not come to the table with us, at that stage we went to the AWU. The company was not impressed with that and stated they would not deal with the AWU. They came around, although the new eba will still have alaea and awu as signatories. The troops are as happy as they will ever be with the eba but at least we had someone show interest. Vey few are still members, some are members of both, although the majority have switched camps, and more will follow once the eba is finalised. Will the AWU be any better? not known, although the fact that they were willing to get involved with no initial membership was warmly welcomed.
As far as being marginalised, I believe that all areas of the industry other than the airlines are. I do believe the association has a place in the industry, but until the remainder of the industry is truly represented by them I think a lot of people pay their dues for the wrong reason.
As far as being marginalised, I believe that all areas of the industry other than the airlines are. I do believe the association has a place in the industry, but until the remainder of the industry is truly represented by them I think a lot of people pay their dues for the wrong reason.
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So did you have any local ALAEA Reps or organisers on site? Or did the troops just sort of expect it all to happen? I am not trying to be funny, just wanted to get an idea of the extent of the envolvement by the rank and file? Can you tell me where the site is (pm me if you want)?
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What ALAEA Representation?
Have any of you guys seen a copy of that email from the ALAEA federal secretary about licence insurance? Does anyone know who "Maurizio Gugliemo" is? Whoever the guy is, he's dumped a bucket on Bexley. For years ALAEA reps have been running around claiming to have licence insurance. When I was working at Avalon 2 years ago I became a member because I was told I'd be protected with this. I'm a bit pissed now because it appears to be a scam. Apparently it does not exist. Here's what was said in the email -
"G'day mate, The ALAEA doesn't provide licence insurance cover for members and I'd like to see one of our documents that states that we do. What we do is represent members accused of involvement in maintenance errors so they don't need to pay for solicitors, barristers and other Council (can't even spell - it's "counsel") when matters escalate into court ordered enquiries. We have also kept a number of LAMEs out of jail through that process.
Six years ago I also had an argument with an Industrial Officer and
instead of resigning in disgust, I decided to do something about it. Five years later I was Federal Secretary and within a couple of months the Industrial Officer (where has Norris gone?) I and possibly you had argued with decided not to work here any more. That's making a difference not attacking a union because of some misconception you appear to have or are creating to suit some other purpose.
Cheers
Steve Purvinas
ALAEA Federal Secretary"
It's about time these idiots got their act together. I'm getting out of them now. Time to sign up with another mob, because I'm getting nothing from these drips.Six years ago I also had an argument with an Industrial Officer and
instead of resigning in disgust, I decided to do something about it. Five years later I was Federal Secretary and within a couple of months the Industrial Officer (where has Norris gone?) I and possibly you had argued with decided not to work here any more. That's making a difference not attacking a union because of some misconception you appear to have or are creating to suit some other purpose.
Cheers
Steve Purvinas
ALAEA Federal Secretary"
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For years ALAEA reps have been running around claiming to have licence insurance.
I've never heard that what planet are you from? We had a vote a couple of years ago and decided not to get it don't you remember? It doesn't even sound like you're a lame.
I've never heard that what planet are you from? We had a vote a couple of years ago and decided not to get it don't you remember? It doesn't even sound like you're a lame.
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dusty dawg wrote "It's about time these idiots got their act together. I'm getting out of them now. Time to sign up with another mob, because I'm getting nothing from these drips."
And you're going to get this "licence insurance" from which union?
A union is what you make it. If all you've got to offer is "what's in it for me?" then good luck with the others and au revoir.
When I joined no one made any such representations to me about licence insurance. In fact the only time I heard it mentioned was from AWU reps trying to muscle in on LAME representation and increase their membership.
This whole thing sounds like it's an AWU plot to stir up shh!t.
And you're going to get this "licence insurance" from which union?
A union is what you make it. If all you've got to offer is "what's in it for me?" then good luck with the others and au revoir.
When I joined no one made any such representations to me about licence insurance. In fact the only time I heard it mentioned was from AWU reps trying to muscle in on LAME representation and increase their membership.
This whole thing sounds like it's an AWU plot to stir up shh!t.
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That's the way I see it. I was told that I would be covered if I was negligent, plain and simple. If I was ever down there again I'd love to ask DM face to face if he remembers what he told me about it before I signed the membership application. But what do you do? I got told there was cover. As for the AWU conspiracy theories, JESUS you only have to look at some of the posts here to see that one minute they were going to take over the ALAEA and the next minute they were going to amalgamate and the next minute they were arranging the campaign for the challenge against the old Executive last year. I mean give me a break!! Well what has happened? Nothing. It's all piss and wind as far as I'm concerned. I admit that you can't trust everything you read but the comments that have been posted by other ALAEA members about the fact that there is no insurance policy ony serves to prove my point. But the ALAEA has done its dash with me. You guys believe what you want. Plus, how dare the ALAEA question the proefssionalism of LAME's in Qantas by "cutting corners on safety"? I never have!!
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Dusty,
I think you have just answered your own questions about "Licence Insurance"
Perhaps you are talking about "income protection insurance"???? If so, check your super, you may already be covered.
I was told that I would be covered if I was negligent, plain and simple.
how dare the ALAEA question the proefssionalism of LAME's in Qantas by "cutting corners on safety"? I never have!!
Perhaps you are talking about "income protection insurance"???? If so, check your super, you may already be covered.
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Maybe you're right. But the point I'm making is that no-one bloody knows what the hell is going on with these turkeys. I was offended the other night when I watched our magnificent leader SP on the ABC in his nice pink shirt talking about survey results on corners being cut on safety. Fair enough, we all get put under the pump from the three ring circus that is Qantas. But do you think I'd ever sacrifice my future in the industry because some knuckle-dragging troglodyte company hack tells me to cut corners!! No way. I've got a a wife, two kids, a dog and a mother-f
er of a mortgage to feed for the next 30 years. Those idiots at Bexley have done nothing but put fear into the minds of people on an issue that they'll never win against Qantas, CASA and the Government. Dumb dumb dumb. But what are they actually doing about it if this problem really does exist. NUTHIN. SP reckons he wrote a letter to the Treasurer. Big deal. Does anyone really think Costello cares? Anyway, enough ranting. I'm not going to waste any more of my time worrying about what the ALAEA do or don't do. I'll move on to something else. They're not worth it.
er of a mortgage to feed for the next 30 years. Those idiots at Bexley have done nothing but put fear into the minds of people on an issue that they'll never win against Qantas, CASA and the Government. Dumb dumb dumb. But what are they actually doing about it if this problem really does exist. NUTHIN. SP reckons he wrote a letter to the Treasurer. Big deal. Does anyone really think Costello cares? Anyway, enough ranting. I'm not going to waste any more of my time worrying about what the ALAEA do or don't do. I'll move on to something else. They're not worth it.
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It looks sparse but the ALAEA have changed their website and put a forum up again.
http://www.alaea.asn.au/forums/index.php
At leat there doing something
http://www.alaea.asn.au/forums/index.php
At leat there doing something
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I think you will find Domo that the likes of Trustee1 are long gone..because if people actually paid attention we had an election recently and for those who voted well done.
The current executive are currently trying to clean up the dramas caused by previous exec ,all this whilst trying to negotiate an EBA .
I suggest to all who are not happy speak to a member of the current exec and maybe they can enlighten you ...instead of negative thoughts out loud.
It only serves the purposes of QF especially during EBA periods ....Unity is all we have without we are all doomed.
And no i am not a rep ....
But a concerned member who realises the Association is not run by chosen few , its run by its members ...so instead of whining we should get off our ass and become an association again not a bunch of old women whinging about what "I " dont have or havent got.....
The current executive are currently trying to clean up the dramas caused by previous exec ,all this whilst trying to negotiate an EBA .
I suggest to all who are not happy speak to a member of the current exec and maybe they can enlighten you ...instead of negative thoughts out loud.
It only serves the purposes of QF especially during EBA periods ....Unity is all we have without we are all doomed.
And no i am not a rep ....
But a concerned member who realises the Association is not run by chosen few , its run by its members ...so instead of whining we should get off our ass and become an association again not a bunch of old women whinging about what "I " dont have or havent got.....
