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Old 11th Dec 2006, 00:46
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Feds buy A319 for Antarctic Service

Antarctic researchers get their own plane
As reported by the ABC
The Federal Government has announced it has acquired the plane for its $46 million Antarctic air service.
The Airbus 319 will fly up to 20 missions a year, enabling Australian researchers to get to Antarctica in four hours instead of spending 10 days on a ship.
Environment Minister Ian Campbell says the flights from Hobart will start early next year.
"It is quite an historic occasion," he said.
"It will ensure that the Australian Government's scientific programs based on Antarctica are given the best support of any Antarctic program anywhere on planet Earth.
"The importance of that scientific program is now quite phenomenal."
Senator Campbell says quicker access to Antarctica will boost efforts to tackle climate change.
"This aircraft will ensure that the world's best scientists ... from across Australia, but also internationally, will be able to collaborate to create some of the best climate change science and assist us in addressing the greatest environmental challenge," he said.

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So they bought an A319..................why?..............because they're CHEAP
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Best on the planet?

And that's only exagerating a little bit.
I guess politicians do that.
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Ansett crew?
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So they bought an A319..................why?..............because they're CHEAP
Considering its only doing 20 missions a year, it would be stupid to buy anything that wasn't cheap. I certainly wouldn't want anymore of my tax money being spent on an aircraft thats not going to be utilised a lot.
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PODBREAK.
ok then I'll expand on my thoughts a bit for ya.
CHEAP to buy..............not cheap to run in the long run!!
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ACMS, I beg to differ. If maintenance is outsourced to the other Australian A320 operator, and low hours really mean low maintenance costs altogether, the running cost difference is hardly notable (compare a 737). Therefore the biggest cost difference would be in purchase. If the aircraft was flying more, perhaps things might be different. I could be wrong...
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nup you're right, its the total of the tape that counts.
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I thought that they were getting a New Falcon 900 EX, the whole three engines argument or is there someone else now going there as well??

How does the A319 make the ETOPs requirement? Where would you go when an engine fails say in the circuit in Antartica?? Or is all this a private operation not charter?? (company employees in company aircraft on company business therefore no ETOPs)
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Airbus eh? No trees in Antarctica I suppose...
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For that few missions, they should just borrow Dishonest John's BBJ!
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For that few missions, they should just borrow Dishonest John's BBJ!
Yeah would've thought adding a BBJ to the fleet would've been simpler/cheaper/easier on several fronts. Might want to avoid the political bizzo of operating a mil a/c into Antarctica, though - although several other countries already do so I can't see how this would've been a problem.

Maybe doing it this way is actually cheaper than mil cost-recovery... ??


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Gonna lease it, if you believe the Courier Mail:
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...-29277,00.html

Don't you love the press, the following article from SBS, starts by saying the gov are purchasing the aircraft and ends by saying they are leasing it.!!!!

http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/...33386&region=7
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Yeah...SBS is a bit funny sometimes....they called the A380 tte "New Boeing Airbus 380......"
And I remember reading in the Herald Sun about an "Airbus 767..."

I thought they were supposed to use an aircraft with more than two engines when flying to Antarctica? Maybe I'm mistaken.....
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The A319CJ will be leased from CIT Leasing and operated by Skytraders, who already operate the CASA 212s that fly around Antarctica. From what I read, it will be operated from Hobart, and the A319 with CFM engines now has 180min ETOPS clearance, so that should all be fine.
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sounds like it will be doing alot of sitting around!!!!

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