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Old 28th Nov 2006, 09:04
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Red face Qantas in the ****ter

From today's Australian newspaper

Qantas flight 63 from Sydney to Johannesburg last Friday was beset with difficulties: six toilets on the 747 were blocked, and it was later discovered four blankets had been stuffed into the pipes. After a fair bit of argy-bargy concerning whether it was okay to fly, and whether the loos could actually be fixed in South Africa or not, the 747 returned to Sydney, where it was found the pipes had leaked sewerage all over the passengers' bags. The planes next trip, as Qantas flight 31 to London, had to be cancelled, and there is now an enquiry into whether the toilet damage was a case of industrial sabotage, or simply the final consequence of cost cutting. Qantas chief Geoff Dixon has been widely praised in business circles for a five year cost-cutting program, but there is now deep disgruntlement at many levels within the national carrier.
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Apparently it was one of Geoffs Tampons that blocked the dunny.
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Where's Kenny when you need him ???
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And with a name like blueloo, I guess you'd know!
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I heard it was the Captains log!
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Probably just another maintenance error its all in the planning.
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How the blazes do you stuff a blanket into the loo pipes??!! Yes I know about the vacuuming etc. but a blanket would take up a decent volume and one would've thought there'd be something obvious still sticking out of the hole in the loo itself.

Cr@p all over the bags ... makes for a plane-load of very unhappy campers.
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Old 28th Nov 2006, 11:36
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Of course the first thing they blame is disgruntled staff. It'll probably turn out to be some yob or a group of them who thought it'd be a bit of a laugh.
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From what I have heard there are three a/c that have suffered the same fate (blocked crappers due to blankets). It may not be just a bunch of drunken yobs doing something they think is funny on board if this is in fact true.
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Sounds like a load of CRAP to me

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QF staff have been pissed off for a while, looks as though they are now shat off !
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Can't imagine why sombody would have eaten the blanket in the first place?!? ... Is the food really that bad?

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The cancelled flight was due to 12, yes one dozen blankets found inside the toilet tanks.These blankets were rolled up tightly, as you do at the beach to dry a towel, an carefully fed into the toilets. When the aircraft was finally put on bay and the toilets serviced another blockage happened and one more blanket was found.
For the aircraft toilets to have the required suction to pull through 13 blankets this must have happened in flight. Also if you saw pax in the aisle way tightly winding up blankets it would look suspicious, crew perhaps. I certainly hope not, because if it is I would personally like to see them in the **** tanks removing them as the engineers did the other night.
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Whilst on the topic of blocked ****ters, the F/O a couple of weeks ago performed above and beyond the call of duty!

Despatched with one of two WCs U/S. Almost half way into a 2+ hour sector with close to a full pax compliment the CC advised that the second WC had also gone U/S, both being blocked.

The No1 CC and F/O and I discussed the pros and cons of an enroute 'tech' diversion to prevent some poor soul soiling themselves, when the F/O offered to go and investigate.

So, rubber glove on, hand into the (full) bowl, other hand working the plumbing levers underneath the bowl, and hey presto both crappers now working.

As it transpires, the defect kept recurring for a week with gingerbeers unable to find a fault until a disposable nappy was eventually retrieved from whence it shouldn't have been.

Onya ET! Can't say I'd have been prepared to do it.
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Ahhh...hence the term "Blanket Bombing"!
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Despatched with one of two WCs U/S.
Tech. crew should not have left for a 2hour + flight and full pax compliment with one dunny U/S. When are they going to stand up and resist this crap.

Must have been a weak assed Skipper not to have insisted the toilet be repaired prior to flight. Hope the F/O makes him clean the dunny next time it happens!


If the F/O had to clean out the crapper, tough tittys. He might question the Captain next time and get the toilet serviceable before depature !!!!
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Jack,

Why shouldn't I have?

ps. F/O didn't have to clean the crapper, he just did it.
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Tech. crew should not have left for a 2hour + flight and full pax compliment with one dunny U/S. When are they going to stand up and resist this crap
Resist what crap? Have you heard of an MEL or CDL or DDL?

So you would not depart unless EVERTHING on your aircraft was working?

Welcome to the real world.
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Have you heard of an MEL or CDL or DDL?
Yep. Have you heard of common sense ? The Captain is not required to accept anything in the MEL he is not happy with OR common sense would suggest it would be unwise to accept.
I suppose you would tow the Company line and despatch with one wx radar u/s into known area of forecast TS? MEL says you can do it !

F/O didn't have to clean the crapper, he just did it.
Yeah, well next time the F/O may just tell you to go and clean it !
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Yeah, well next time the F/O may just tell you to go and clean it !
No he won't. I didn't tell him to do anything. Nor did I suggest anything. He volunteered to go take a look and then decide to fix it.

I suppose you would tow the Company line and despatch with one wx radar u/s into known area of forecast TS? MEL says you can do it !
I don't quite see how you can equate a MELd crapper with a MELd Wx Radar and T/S. Nor have I ever seen a MEL that will allow non Wx radar ops in areas of TS.

Now to my question, why shouldn't I have despatched?
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