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I don't know if you could call it apples and oranges but RMA certainly did operate in a different era .He was also certainly a driven man as are most leaders and there were probably a lot of different facets to his personality.
He did however start one of the country's greatest enterprises and although we can argue as to who or what was to blame for the downfall of Ansett it is truly a pity and a sad one at that that Ansett is no longer around.
He did however start one of the country's greatest enterprises and although we can argue as to who or what was to blame for the downfall of Ansett it is truly a pity and a sad one at that that Ansett is no longer around.
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Having watched the final of the Ansett Story last night I'm none the wiser where his estate went after his death.
We watched the sale of the property by "trustees". We saw the family claim to be left out. We saw Bob stiffly shake hands with his step sister with little eye contact. But who were the trustees acting for? Who got the loot? The family seemed to be very hurt by the result of the old blokes will.
And what a nice young bloke was Reg's grandson who flies helicopters and bought mementos of the old bloke at auction. Good luck to him with his future in aviation.
This was like watching a whodunnit movie but you don't find out whodunnit in the end.
How frustrating. The producers should be flogged.
Do any readers know who the trustees acted for and who got the money, if not the family?
We watched the sale of the property by "trustees". We saw the family claim to be left out. We saw Bob stiffly shake hands with his step sister with little eye contact. But who were the trustees acting for? Who got the loot? The family seemed to be very hurt by the result of the old blokes will.
And what a nice young bloke was Reg's grandson who flies helicopters and bought mementos of the old bloke at auction. Good luck to him with his future in aviation.
This was like watching a whodunnit movie but you don't find out whodunnit in the end.
How frustrating. The producers should be flogged.
Do any readers know who the trustees acted for and who got the money, if not the family?
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Best hatchet job I've ever seen on two dead people, unable to defend themselves, by the remaining members of the family all squabling over the estate! How disgusting!
Aided and abetted by Australian Story and the ABC. Equally disgusting!
Aided and abetted by Australian Story and the ABC. Equally disgusting!
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Having watched the final of the Ansett Story last night I'm none the wiser where his estate went after his death.
We watched the sale of the property by "trustees". We saw the family claim to be left out. We saw Bob stiffly shake hands with his step sister with little eye contact. But who were the trustees acting for? Who got the loot? The family seemed to be very hurt by the result of the old blokes will.
And what a nice young bloke was Reg's grandson who flies helicopters and bought mementos of the old bloke at auction. Good luck to him with his future in aviation.
This was like watching a whodunnit movie but you don't find out whodunnit in the end.
How frustrating. The producers should be flogged.
Do any readers know who the trustees acted for and who got the money, if not the family?
We watched the sale of the property by "trustees". We saw the family claim to be left out. We saw Bob stiffly shake hands with his step sister with little eye contact. But who were the trustees acting for? Who got the loot? The family seemed to be very hurt by the result of the old blokes will.
And what a nice young bloke was Reg's grandson who flies helicopters and bought mementos of the old bloke at auction. Good luck to him with his future in aviation.
This was like watching a whodunnit movie but you don't find out whodunnit in the end.
How frustrating. The producers should be flogged.
Do any readers know who the trustees acted for and who got the money, if not the family?
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Most likely scenario is that the proceeds of the sale have been placed in a trust account pending the outcome of any litigation by the daughter (which I suspect may be limited to a right to the house she and her husband occupied (occupy?). Cannot think how Bob Ansett would have any claim to any part of the estate but then I never dabbled in the black arts of Chancellory. Reason the program couldn't give an answer is that the matter is still to be litigated at the time of producing the program.
amos2,
Can't agree on the program being a hatchet job. It was quite apparent that Sir Reg ruled the family and whatever he said his wife would comply. I certainly cannot agree with
His daughter has, I think, a very valid claim having given up a large part of her life to care for her mother and to then find that the home that you thought was yours was not. Wish I had a tatts ticket with as much chance.
Most likely scenario is that the proceeds of the sale have been placed in a trust account pending the outcome of any litigation by the daughter (which I suspect may be limited to a right to the house she and her husband occupied (occupy?). Cannot think how Bob Ansett would have any claim to any part of the estate but then I never dabbled in the black arts of Chancellory. Reason the program couldn't give an answer is that the matter is still to be litigated at the time of producing the program.
amos2,
Can't agree on the program being a hatchet job. It was quite apparent that Sir Reg ruled the family and whatever he said his wife would comply. I certainly cannot agree with
the remaining members of the family all squabling over the estate!
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As someone who does not work in the industry may I ask for some opinions of people 'on the inside"?
The two airline policy protected Ansett and Qantas during the late seventies and into the eighties,If Ansett had not "collapsed" (or been driven into the ground ?) would V Blue,J* et al exist now? or would "market forces" have forced the major players to offer the sort of low fare,limited service airline we now (for better or worse) have?
From my own point of view,Reg Ansett was a clever businessman who had his own view of the way an airline should be run,and not all his views were "correct" especially the female pilot issue,but I am sure that Australian aviation would have been poorer had he not been around.
appreciate any thoughts.
The two airline policy protected Ansett and Qantas during the late seventies and into the eighties,If Ansett had not "collapsed" (or been driven into the ground ?) would V Blue,J* et al exist now? or would "market forces" have forced the major players to offer the sort of low fare,limited service airline we now (for better or worse) have?
From my own point of view,Reg Ansett was a clever businessman who had his own view of the way an airline should be run,and not all his views were "correct" especially the female pilot issue,but I am sure that Australian aviation would have been poorer had he not been around.
appreciate any thoughts.
The two airline policy protected Ansett and Trans Australian Airlines (TAA). Qantas operated international services only with no domestic rights.
The two airline policy was beneficial in the early years (post 1948) but passed it's use by date in the late 1960's when state based and licensed airlines emerged. It was anti competive - identical schedules, aircraft types, fares etc but for forty years, provided a very stable and reliable air service for Australia - particularly cross subsidising regional and rural services, many of which have since disappeared.
The policy was abolished well before even Bryan Grey had a Compass twinkle in his eye.
Virgin Blue, JetStar are products of a new era which some - but not all - may consider an age of enlightenment!
The two airline policy was beneficial in the early years (post 1948) but passed it's use by date in the late 1960's when state based and licensed airlines emerged. It was anti competive - identical schedules, aircraft types, fares etc but for forty years, provided a very stable and reliable air service for Australia - particularly cross subsidising regional and rural services, many of which have since disappeared.
The policy was abolished well before even Bryan Grey had a Compass twinkle in his eye.
Virgin Blue, JetStar are products of a new era which some - but not all - may consider an age of enlightenment!
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I did think about it and who is there left to present the other side, the trustees of the will? They can't comment as the matter is now under litigation and besides, what can they say? Their job is to uphold the terms of the will, not defend its maker.
What an interesting 2 episodes on an individual who had an amazing mark on Australian aviation history.
At the end of the second episode however, my thoughts were that he is a very sad, sad individual. How on earth could anyone treat their children in such a way? To show such love and affection toward his adopted children, and then for them, and for his children from the previous marriage to be left high and dry just amazes me. For me, the 'kick in the guts' was for his daughter to be told that their house where they stayed to look after Mum was "only on loan."
An interesting character none the less.
At the end of the second episode however, my thoughts were that he is a very sad, sad individual. How on earth could anyone treat their children in such a way? To show such love and affection toward his adopted children, and then for them, and for his children from the previous marriage to be left high and dry just amazes me. For me, the 'kick in the guts' was for his daughter to be told that their house where they stayed to look after Mum was "only on loan."
An interesting character none the less.
The Forgotten Australian Giant :ANA
Australian National Airways Pty Ltd is the forgotten giant of pre and post WWII in australia.
without the expertise and the aircraft RMA would not have as great an impact as he did.
sure he was a "go getter" ; but ansett airways was a small airline until its subsumed ANA.
suggest some of the "young ones " find the book by Peter Yule : The Forgotten Giant of Australian Aviation : Australian National Airways.
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without the expertise and the aircraft RMA would not have as great an impact as he did.
sure he was a "go getter" ; but ansett airways was a small airline until its subsumed ANA.
suggest some of the "young ones " find the book by Peter Yule : The Forgotten Giant of Australian Aviation : Australian National Airways.
cheers
dijon moutard
Boocs, and others wondering why Reg Ansett was so hard on his family????
Have none of you ever heard of the first world war? The influenza pandemic of 1918-1919? The great depression? The traumas inflicted on those Australians unfortunate to live through any of those times would be quite enough to color their outlook on life in a multitude of negative ways.
I don't think R.M. Ansett was a particularly unusual specimen of his times.
Have none of you ever heard of the first world war? The influenza pandemic of 1918-1919? The great depression? The traumas inflicted on those Australians unfortunate to live through any of those times would be quite enough to color their outlook on life in a multitude of negative ways.
I don't think R.M. Ansett was a particularly unusual specimen of his times.
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I too was surprised to see how RMA structured his will in regard to his family. Despite this, I got the impression that Bob Ansett spoke quite fondly of his father in spite of how he was treated. He certainly didn't appear hostile toward him.
Considering the impact that Reg Ansett had on the Australian aviation industry, there didn't seem to be too many 'winners' in the whole story.
Considering the impact that Reg Ansett had on the Australian aviation industry, there didn't seem to be too many 'winners' in the whole story.
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The programme didn't have much to say about his business acumen, brilliant as it was I understand that his methods leave a lot to be desired. I've heard, second hand I admit, of some not so very nice stories of how he took over Butler Aviation and MMA.
When I joined the industry (TAA) in 1962 I heard from QAL staff how "Reg" did a once a year "sacking tour" of Queensland ports.
For all that he was a success story for most of his life!
When I joined the industry (TAA) in 1962 I heard from QAL staff how "Reg" did a once a year "sacking tour" of Queensland ports.
For all that he was a success story for most of his life!
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Anyone else who knew John Canning-Cooke
I would appreciate anyone who knew my Father John Canning-Cooke contacting me. I was very young when he died, and would love to hear some stories about him. He was quite a character I have been told.
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James
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Reg Ansett was one of my school's founding fathers and Chairman of the School Board of Directors from 1964 until 1974. I was very lucky to fly in his jetranger VH-AND. There's no doubt that he was part of my inspiration towards a love of aviation