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Old 30th Oct 2006, 10:53
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They are all freighters, one form of freight just self loads itself, thats all.
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Old 31st Oct 2006, 07:28
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Originally Posted by alangirvan
Has Boeing done a QC version of the 737NG yet? VB/Toll would have to find older 737-300/400s, which would be orphans in the main fleet.


Didn't TAA move freight at night by putting shelves on top of seats in regular 727s?
Yep, there is a QC 737-700. The US Navy have a bunch of them to replace their DC-9s (C-43Cs I think is their designation). Apparently there were also a couple of civillian ones ordered by one of the leasing companies a while ago, but I haven't heard anything about them. It would be good if DJ could get a couple of these but it'd be hard trying to configure them for pax operations once they've got all of the live TV things installed.

If they can't get those, I think it'd be good if they got their hands on some 734Fs. The 727s would be cheap but their operating costs would have to be pretty high unless they got hold of some of the Tay-engined birds. Do FedEx have those?
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QC aircraft suffer badly with wear and tear tho. You are better off having dedicated freighters.
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Thumbs up Another thought

one easy way to start is buy the jetex 727 operation and utilize one by one the old birds as they are replaced by the 733 its a stand alone AOC operation believe another 722 is due to be retired eary next year with another in april. The old birds may be old but are cost effective against any newer type (as are owned outright)and are THE most suitable aircraft for an Australian freight operation. A mix of 733/722 would seem to be ideal plus a 146 for syd curfew. For international hops to asia the 727 is the ideal beast!!!!!
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Originally Posted by ebt
bunch of Yep, there is a QC 737-700. The US Navy em to replace their DC-9s (C-43Cs I think is their designation). Apparently there were also a couple of civillian ones ordered by one of the leasing companies a while ago, but I haven't heard anything about them. It would be good if DJ could get a couple of these but it'd be hard trying to configure them for pax operations once they've got all of the live TV things installed.

If they can't get those, I think it'd be good if they got their hands on some 734Fs. The 727s would be cheap but their operating costs would have to be pretty high unless they got hold of some of the Tay-engined birds. Do FedEx have those?
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Saudi Aramco(national oil company) have 3 B737/700QCs which were purchased in 2000......I .never drove them in QC mode as they were primarily purchased to carry the large OIL Pumping Jet engines(pulled for maintenance on occasions) that are used along the Pipe Line and sometimes VIP config.Heavier MTOPSWT and nose heavy of course.

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Old 6th Nov 2006, 06:44
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Why would Virgin want to do freight in a 737NG QC?

Apart from the high capital purchase cost for low utilisation (night flights) and inevitable damage to the interior that will occur, the time taken to complete putting seats in and out and hooking up all the electronics etc.

VB still consider themselves a LLC, freight doesn't fit the model and will only take their eye of the prize. Also why is QF setting up AAE with 737-300's which are currently being converted to freighters, all be it with little success....... LOW CAPITAL set up.

Only way forward for VB is to set up a similar operation or fall by the wayside.

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Old 6th Nov 2006, 08:22
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Gee - do you think this might have anything to do with the Ozjet jobs posted elsewhere?! or the written off 73 classic at avalon?!
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Old 6th Nov 2006, 22:37
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Originally Posted by A1BUGSMASHER
VB still consider themselves a LLC, freight doesn't fit the model and will only take their eye of the prize.

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No they don't - VB consider themselves a "New World Carrier" - hence the introduction of Live TV, Business Lounges, Loyalty Programmes etc
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