RAAF Richmond Airshow
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Oz
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Magoodotcom is correct, the C-17 is being acquired through FMS; not Boeing.
http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/lsp/c17.cfm
To quote from wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_military_sales
http://www.defence.gov.au/dmo/lsp/c17.cfm
To quote from wikipedia:
The U.S. Department of Defense's Foreign Military Sales program facilitates sales of U.S. arms, defense equipment, defense services, and military training to foreign governments. The purchaser does not deal directly with the defense contractor; instead, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency serves as an intermediary, usually handling procurement, logistics and delivery and often providing product support and training.
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Sydney
Posts: 817
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have just returned from the airshow. I must say that the Defence force /RAAF did a magnificent job! and value for money!!!!!
for $20per adult we got the whole day, including return rail. we took the Mother in law plus sister in law and nephew and niece (kids at $5 pp).
The kids LOVED it, except got a bit frightened by the noise, but once the flying started, it was non stop. Got a couple of good photos too .. at least mum in law did!
everyone very courteous and helpful, public transport was GREAT!including courtesy busses during the show to and from the train station.
all in all, a VERY enjoyable, and affordable day. Well done to all involved.
for $20per adult we got the whole day, including return rail. we took the Mother in law plus sister in law and nephew and niece (kids at $5 pp).
The kids LOVED it, except got a bit frightened by the noise, but once the flying started, it was non stop. Got a couple of good photos too .. at least mum in law did!
everyone very courteous and helpful, public transport was GREAT!including courtesy busses during the show to and from the train station.
all in all, a VERY enjoyable, and affordable day. Well done to all involved.
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Victoria
Age: 62
Posts: 984
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
No mention of the ADFs busiest flying unit in the website I see.
Did not attend myself, but I bet they weren't mentioned anywhere else either.
Two aircraft did turn up to wave the flag though, although they had to invite themselves!
Did not attend myself, but I bet they weren't mentioned anywhere else either.Two aircraft did turn up to wave the flag though, although they had to invite themselves!
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Down Under
Posts: 139
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Strange restriction
I wonder why they won't allow GA aircraft in? A small area could be cordoned off for GA helos to visit and park, NOTAMS and ATC can control helos and fixed wing coming and leaving safely? Other airshows allow this. 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Down Under
Posts: 139
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Can the organisers explain please?
Let me see, thousands of members of the public attending, OK; Any one overflying Richmond when CTAF (R), OK; looking at Richmond via Google Earth, OK; members of public in gliding club using the aerodrome, OK; GA pilots with ASIC - NOT OK?! Why introduce ASIC in the first place? Why have an airshow at Richmond if it is such a security risk? 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Victoria
Age: 62
Posts: 984
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
No mention of the ADFs busiest flying unit in the website I see.
The RAAF balloon?
wonder why they won't allow GA aircraft in? A small area could be cordoned off for GA helos to visit and park,
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Wherever the hotel drink ticket is valid
Posts: 281
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Just got back from day 2, and fully endorse earlier comments on a great event. ALthough I can't say it's at the same level as some airshows you can see in the US, the flying program offered a wide variety of different types with some impressive displays of performance.
Aerobatic displays were unfortunately hampered by clouds to a small degree, and the Roulettes couldn't put in a full routine (understand the lead was out with a broken leg??)
C17 short field landing capability was quite a sight - obviously a tonne of reverse thrust and some pretty hot brakes, but you wouldn't expect 200,000 kgs to pull up that quick. I'm sold.
Just to throw my two cents on security - although you might thonk your ASIC should get you in the door, this doesn't abrogate Defences need to separate John Q Civie from certain areas. Having civilian aircraft in the base creates a host of additional security requirements: you need to control access to the parking area (and make sure non-ASIC holders aren't let in), and all of this requires additional manpower (which if you hadn't heard is pretty scant in the ADF just at the moment). You also need to start contingency planning for aircraft that can't get out due unserviceability and accept the risk civilian owned/operated aircraft present to service personnel and other visitors. We'd like to think it's simple, but sometimes the extra effort required is a couple of straws the camel isn't going to carry.
Anyhow - not a bad way to spend a day. Well done Ronnie, back to the Mess for tea and medals!
Aerobatic displays were unfortunately hampered by clouds to a small degree, and the Roulettes couldn't put in a full routine (understand the lead was out with a broken leg??)
C17 short field landing capability was quite a sight - obviously a tonne of reverse thrust and some pretty hot brakes, but you wouldn't expect 200,000 kgs to pull up that quick. I'm sold.
Just to throw my two cents on security - although you might thonk your ASIC should get you in the door, this doesn't abrogate Defences need to separate John Q Civie from certain areas. Having civilian aircraft in the base creates a host of additional security requirements: you need to control access to the parking area (and make sure non-ASIC holders aren't let in), and all of this requires additional manpower (which if you hadn't heard is pretty scant in the ADF just at the moment). You also need to start contingency planning for aircraft that can't get out due unserviceability and accept the risk civilian owned/operated aircraft present to service personnel and other visitors. We'd like to think it's simple, but sometimes the extra effort required is a couple of straws the camel isn't going to carry.
Anyhow - not a bad way to spend a day. Well done Ronnie, back to the Mess for tea and medals!
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: in the jungle
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
old soldier boy was out there today with soldier boy jnr -must say the RAAF- put on a top day-good to see the pig out and about to start the flying display along with the hawk and hornets- would have been even better if the USAF sent more heavy metal- -C17 was amazing 
bring on AVV
bring on AVV
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sydney, Australia
Age: 58
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The main reason for no GA visting aircraft was so the runway could be closed outside the airshow flying program time (1100-1600) for pedestrians to walk across from the trains.
There were so few car parking spaces available that they had to make it as easy as possible for train-catchers to access the show.
Magoo
There were so few car parking spaces available that they had to make it as easy as possible for train-catchers to access the show.
Magoo
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Down Under
Posts: 139
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The main reason for no GA visting aircraft was so the runway could be closed outside the airshow flying program time (1100-1600) for pedestrians to walk across from the trains.
There were so few car parking spaces available that they had to make it as easy as possible for train-catchers to access the show.
Magoo
There were so few car parking spaces available that they had to make it as easy as possible for train-catchers to access the show.
Magoo
Guess I'm a little old fashioned, expecting to fly an aircraft to an airport that is open to the public.
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Oz
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Being an airport
GA pilots with ASIC - NOT OK?!
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Wide Brown Land
Age: 39
Posts: 516
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Another reason for no GA fly-in: pretty much all of Bankstown would have gone across, I'd think - not very long to get there. And exactly where on the Richmond airfield would you have parked them all??
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Sydney (Blue Mountains)
Posts: 184
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RAAf Richmond Airshow
I have just returned from YSRI it was the worst show I have ever been to, advertising was just plain poor, the Roulettes were only 5 off and whilst they flew they could have stayed on the ground.They are saying it's the last airshow at Richmond, "GOOD" if that was the best the RAAF could turn out they should not be putting on airshows. I think the Bosses at YSRI and Russell Offices should have a good hard look at themselves and should have got the Club that put on the 88 airshow to do it again, stick to fighting wars not airshows,the rail & buses were shocking, I finished up walking from the base to Richmond Station. Take the Pigs & FA18's away and the rest were only so so.
Kickatinalong
Kickatinalong
.