Interim Senate Report Released
Grandpa Aerotart
CaptR I read all your links that I was able to access...some of it was extremely well written and makes a lot of sense....much of it was doomsayer wetdreams.
The world must certainly learn to be more sensible with its resources. I completely agree that the world economy cannot spiral ever upwards as the Globalisation freaks would suggest. I agree that shipping product all over the world is wasteful of resources and the world should move back to a more localised production and consumption model.
The anti GW scientists are not saying the world weather is not changing....they are saying that it is constantly changing and has been constantly changing since time began. They are suggeting there is no evidence that it is changing as quickly as some suggest and that there is equally no evidence that it is unduly influenced by man.
I was watching a program this evening about the Australian continent and how millions of years ago it was mostly covered in rainforest...of which a very few small pockets remain. The continent now called Antartic was similarly covered in rainforest...warm, wet and covered in furry animals that were the predecesors of todays Marsupials.
Over MILLIONs of years it has slowly evolved, and no doubt continues to evolve, into the driest inhabited continent on the planet...while the Antartic evolved into a big chunk of ice covered rock.
What caused that?
I am fairly certain it wasn't mankind burning fossil fuel because the fossils were still walking around and yet to be turned into fuel.
Scientists with open minds are starting to realise that the sun's activity is also constantly changing...in a 1000s of years timeframe...and that it is far more likely to be effecting earth's climate on a global scale than we are.
What would you propose we do about that?
How much money do you think we should spend on Kyoto when it is highly likely we may need large chunks of that money to help populations adjust to a more gradual, natural climate change which is WAY outside of our ability to control?
Would you like to see BOTH SIDES of the GW debate given equal time in the media so everyone can make informed decisions about what we can and cannot control or would you prefer instead the current situation to continue?
A situation where only the 'GW is all our fault' mob get the coverage.
The world must certainly learn to be more sensible with its resources. I completely agree that the world economy cannot spiral ever upwards as the Globalisation freaks would suggest. I agree that shipping product all over the world is wasteful of resources and the world should move back to a more localised production and consumption model.
The anti GW scientists are not saying the world weather is not changing....they are saying that it is constantly changing and has been constantly changing since time began. They are suggeting there is no evidence that it is changing as quickly as some suggest and that there is equally no evidence that it is unduly influenced by man.
I was watching a program this evening about the Australian continent and how millions of years ago it was mostly covered in rainforest...of which a very few small pockets remain. The continent now called Antartic was similarly covered in rainforest...warm, wet and covered in furry animals that were the predecesors of todays Marsupials.
Over MILLIONs of years it has slowly evolved, and no doubt continues to evolve, into the driest inhabited continent on the planet...while the Antartic evolved into a big chunk of ice covered rock.
What caused that?
I am fairly certain it wasn't mankind burning fossil fuel because the fossils were still walking around and yet to be turned into fuel.
Scientists with open minds are starting to realise that the sun's activity is also constantly changing...in a 1000s of years timeframe...and that it is far more likely to be effecting earth's climate on a global scale than we are.
What would you propose we do about that?
How much money do you think we should spend on Kyoto when it is highly likely we may need large chunks of that money to help populations adjust to a more gradual, natural climate change which is WAY outside of our ability to control?
Would you like to see BOTH SIDES of the GW debate given equal time in the media so everyone can make informed decisions about what we can and cannot control or would you prefer instead the current situation to continue?
A situation where only the 'GW is all our fault' mob get the coverage.
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GW & Peak in Global Production?
Chimbu - looks like you have a minority position re GW given this weeks Govt GW annoucements?
Interesting article in Reuters - http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...1-ArticlePage2
Cheers
CaptR
Interesting article in Reuters - http://today.reuters.com/news/articl...1-ArticlePage2
Cheers
CaptR
