Qantas At War
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Why has Qantas management declared war on its employees?
I fail to see what possible positive result could be achieved by doing this.
The wage bill over the last few years has been substantially reduced.Off shore bases,partime,casuals,closure of engineering in Sydney,outsourcing,reduction of staffing levels at airports.The list goes on.
Senior management remuneration continues to increase.
Fear and intimidation have become the preferred management tools.
What is the overall agenda?
Staff cooperation surely must be more desirable than the adversarial circumstances that prevail now.
The anger and frustration that is evident in these threads is only a fraction of that at work.
Surely this is not healthy for any company seeking to move forward and reinvent itself
I fail to see what possible positive result could be achieved by doing this.
The wage bill over the last few years has been substantially reduced.Off shore bases,partime,casuals,closure of engineering in Sydney,outsourcing,reduction of staffing levels at airports.The list goes on.
Senior management remuneration continues to increase.
Fear and intimidation have become the preferred management tools.
What is the overall agenda?
Staff cooperation surely must be more desirable than the adversarial circumstances that prevail now.
The anger and frustration that is evident in these threads is only a fraction of that at work.
Surely this is not healthy for any company seeking to move forward and reinvent itself
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The overall agenda, IMO is, not have Qantas as an airline, but a Qantas brand name, operated by Jetstar.
Qantas will add more and more routes and aircraft to J*, then J* will take over Qantas, so you will pay qantas prices, and have J* operating costs. QF will remain only on the profitable US and UK routes and thats it..
Qantas will add more and more routes and aircraft to J*, then J* will take over Qantas, so you will pay qantas prices, and have J* operating costs. QF will remain only on the profitable US and UK routes and thats it..
Every new type to Jetstar. Including new 74 derivative. all new pilots offered Jetstar package take it or leave it. As old types phased out. Here's the contract for new aircraft. Take it or leave it.
I'd include LHR and LAX under the 'new' cost structure. Give it time.
The future is bright, the future is orange.
I'd include LHR and LAX under the 'new' cost structure. Give it time.
The future is bright, the future is orange.
Nunc est bibendum
Given the way the pilot shortage is starting to bite 'leave it' may well be a very attractive option for lots of crew. QF may well find itself on the wrong side of that particular ledger in a couple of years time. Time will tell one way or the other!
Why has Qantas management declared war on its employees?
I fail to see what possible positive result could be achieved by doing this.
Senior management remuneration continues to increase.
The anger and frustration that is evident in these threads is only a fraction of that at work.
Surely this is not healthy for any company seeking to move forward and reinvent itself
Surely this is not healthy for any company seeking to move forward and reinvent itself
The saddest part is that these staff just cannot see the writing on the wall - they are in denial and to bring them round would require prohibitively expensive rounds of individual counselling.
Ask a former Ansett employee how sad it was when that airline had to close its doors, then try to realise that GD and the management are working hard to prevent Qantas from going the same way.
I don't
You learn all that stuff in uni (before you got your job in Ansett at age 17 just before in went broke 5 years ago)?
You may like to live in Chinese conditions, but some of us don't. If we have to, then we'll go that way kicking and screaming. Get into the workforce and see what it's like to work for nothing.
Aircraft - you miss the point, Qantas is already viable. Dixon is simply taking remuneration from staff to line his own pockets (substantiated in company documents). Your responses indicate that you are naive and have not done any research prior to posting. 
Aircraft you have completely missed the point, or swallowed the big lie. As has been said numerous times its not about Qantas "Viability" or "Sustainability".
Its about SHARE PRICE sustainability and viability.
Its about SHARE PRICE sustainability and viability.
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Ultralights.
Jetstar will take over more and more of the QF routes and when Qantas loses identity they will rebadge Jetstar in Qantas clivery, and as if by magic, Dixon gets his cost reduction.
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Ansett does not exist, this thread has no time for management or their gutless sympathizers.
keg.
what pilot shortage, have a look on the CASA register, there are thousands of pilots. People will do the job for half the wage.
Jetstar will take over more and more of the QF routes and when Qantas loses identity they will rebadge Jetstar in Qantas clivery, and as if by magic, Dixon gets his cost reduction.
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Ansett does not exist, this thread has no time for management or their gutless sympathizers.
keg.
what pilot shortage, have a look on the CASA register, there are thousands of pilots. People will do the job for half the wage.
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Bloggs, I agree with Aircraft, he/she don't. It should be obvious.
Sunfis and GB, share price and viability are tied in together, the outfit does not exist for the employees. If you can't see that get ready for a rude surprise.
Sunfis and GB, share price and viability are tied in together, the outfit does not exist for the employees. If you can't see that get ready for a rude surprise.
Mr. Turb, with respect, you have got it wrong. As an entity, as long as Qantas is not losing money it is sustainable. Since it has something like a billion annual profit and a stranglehold on capacity, I would argue that its viability is not in question.
What is in question of course is the viability of the senior management team, and Board, and that is a direct function of its share price. If the share price falls too low as a result of management ineptitude, Qantas becomes a takeover target, it is taken over and then management is replaced with a better performing group.
As for being run "for the benefit of the employees", I think you miss the point entirely, which is about time horizons. Qantas employees, such as pilots, engineers and cabin crew can make an immediate impact on QF's profits. Board decisons take years to impact profits. I will leave you to ponder how this happens on your own.
To put it another way, you can't have satisfied customers unless you have satisfied staff.
What is in question of course is the viability of the senior management team, and Board, and that is a direct function of its share price. If the share price falls too low as a result of management ineptitude, Qantas becomes a takeover target, it is taken over and then management is replaced with a better performing group.
As for being run "for the benefit of the employees", I think you miss the point entirely, which is about time horizons. Qantas employees, such as pilots, engineers and cabin crew can make an immediate impact on QF's profits. Board decisons take years to impact profits. I will leave you to ponder how this happens on your own.
To put it another way, you can't have satisfied customers unless you have satisfied staff.
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I must admit I have a very grim view of the future at Q. The impending pilot shortage we all talk about will do little to curb the typical actions of management, they will simply continue with what the rest of the world has been doing for years, throwing candidates in the right hand seat with 250 hours. And lets face it, we are living in the best country on the planet, you know that and so do they. How many of you would seriously consider leaving Qantas to go overseas, possibly for the rest of your careers? They will wittle away the CoS until it's to their liking. Believe it or not people there are plenty of wannabes out their who would be happy to fly jets for Jokestar wages, management also know this. We are doomed because we can't collectively stick together and stay together.
Sunfish,
Qantas is a lot more viable today than it was a few years ago because of the management.
To successfully spin off a low cost carrier (Jetstar) was a masterstroke, given the disastrous results met by KLM and British Airways (?) when they tried the same thing.
A declining share price is not necessarily an indication of poor management. I believe that the Qantas management is excellent and wish that GD was in charge of my company!
Qantas is a lot more viable today than it was a few years ago because of the management.
To successfully spin off a low cost carrier (Jetstar) was a masterstroke, given the disastrous results met by KLM and British Airways (?) when they tried the same thing.
A declining share price is not necessarily an indication of poor management. I believe that the Qantas management is excellent and wish that GD was in charge of my company!
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Quote from Aircraft....
"Qantas is a lot more viable today than it was a few years ago because of the management.
To successfully spin off a low cost carrier (Jetstar) was a masterstroke"
How then do you explain J* Asia .....?
"Qantas is a lot more viable today than it was a few years ago because of the management.
To successfully spin off a low cost carrier (Jetstar) was a masterstroke"
How then do you explain J* Asia .....?