Wikiposts
Search
Australia, New Zealand & the Pacific Airline and RPT Rumours & News in Australia, enZed and the Pacific

F111 in trouble

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 19th Jul 2006, 09:40
  #41 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Straya
Posts: 537
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
but the one that blew me away was the New Zealand air force 757
The 757 part of your sentence is redundant.

Considering that fact, this aircraft has to fulfill Strategic as well as Combat Roles - that is why they practice these manouevres no doubt.

(The ANZ fleet form the reserve squadron)

Sich a putty the glory daze uf thuh strickmister und thuh skyhook are pissed.

[Dons Hud Het]

Last edited by Shitsu_Tonka; 19th Jul 2006 at 10:32.
Shitsu_Tonka is offline  
Old 19th Jul 2006, 10:25
  #42 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: ADELAIDE
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I agree with you Bangkokeasy the 757 routine was something to see. I wasnt videoing it until half way through their routine as I have to admit I thought that it would be boring. Man was I wrong. Those kiwis certainly through it around!!!
W800i is offline  
Old 19th Jul 2006, 10:32
  #43 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Wherever I can log on.
Posts: 1,872
Received 10 Likes on 7 Posts
Thumbs down

Rumour that I heard is that particular pig had just come out of heavy maintenance - if true then someone will be running for cover.

Heavy maintenance I believe is done by a subsidiary of Air NZ Engineering Services.
Going Boeing is offline  
Old 19th Jul 2006, 12:49
  #44 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Australia
Posts: 209
Received 6 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Ex Douglas Driver
Giuseppe for CAF!
Obviously, I'd put your success down to the skilled instruction you received during IFC .
Well done
Crap! It was that superior instruction at 2FTS!!

Yeah, he's got my vote too!
TruBlu351 is offline  
Old 19th Jul 2006, 21:34
  #45 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
No, the aircraft was not just out of heavy servicing that is done by Boeing Australia, Boeing Boeing. It had however I believe, been serviced by the line maintenance.
trashie is offline  
Old 19th Jul 2006, 23:42
  #46 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yep, Mr Warner no doubt did an outstanding job supporting his new pilot - a testament to both his character and his training - what a nice bloke.

My questions are these:

1. Did the cable & tape from the arresting system run out to its full length?
2. If not, what might have happened in the event that the pig kept going? What would have given way at that (low) speed? The tape, cable or hook/aircraft?
3. What damage was done to the runway? How long was/is it closed for? How did they move the pig? I don't believe they have the cranes/trucks on bases for this type of event.

Dave The Snail
Dave The Snail is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2006, 01:02
  #47 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sydney, Australia
Age: 58
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Going Boeing
Rumour that I heard is that particular pig had just come out of heavy maintenance - if true then someone will be running for cover.
Heavy maintenance I believe is done by a subsidiary of Air NZ Engineering Services.
Heavy maintenance is done by Boeing Australia, but this jet had logged almost 300 hours since its last DM.

So, wrong and....wrong!

Magoo
Magoodotcom is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2006, 01:05
  #48 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Sydney, Australia
Age: 58
Posts: 197
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Dave The Snail
Yep, Mr Warner no doubt did an outstanding job supporting his new pilot - a testament to both his character and his training - what a nice bloke.

My questions are these:

1. Did the cable & tape from the arresting system run out to its full length?
2. If not, what might have happened in the event that the pig kept going? What would have given way at that (low) speed? The tape, cable or hook/aircraft?
3. What damage was done to the runway? How long was/is it closed for? How did they move the pig? I don't believe they have the cranes/trucks on bases for this type of event.

Dave The Snail
1. & 2. They had the option to bang out if the cable failed or they failed to take it. It was not considered an option to belly land without it for fear of fire and/or loss of control.
3. It's still on the runway this morning, but will likely be removed this arvo. Damage to pavement is expected to be superficial, although cable system is probably now a throw away item!

Magoo
Magoodotcom is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2006, 01:35
  #49 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Magoo

Thanks for the reply.

The arrestor systems are pretty tough (I did work with them for awhile at Williamtown years ago) - they are made to take exactly that sort of event. From the footage, I can't really tell whether or not the tape/cable was pulled to its full length. If it wasn't, it should live to see another day.
Dave The Snail is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2006, 03:14
  #50 (permalink)  
Keg

Nunc est bibendum
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 5,583
Received 11 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Pass-A-Frozo
.. they aren't called Nav's anymore.. they are Air Combat Officers now... (along with Air Defence and Airborne Electronics officers).
What happened to 'non-pilot officer aircrew'! A mate is a qualified FC (with the USAF) and was not happy when the whole 'full wing' thing came in. He was more than happy with the half wing with FC on it.

Originally Posted by Pass-A-Frozo
..
No nav is allowed to where the half brevet now either..
I'll have to update my Manual of Dress. It still shows that the half wing is OK if you qualified pre 1 Dec 98!?!? Has there been a later directive saying that Nav's had to convert to the full wing? I also thought that former airmen such as Engineers could continue to wear their previous brevet rather than convert to the full wing brevet for non pilot officer aircrew?!?!?!

For those that are unsure what we're talking about, picture the 'normal' RAAF wing with a Southern Cross in the middle of the laurel wreath instead of RAAF.

The old wings looked like:



You can find a piccie of the new wing at:

www.worldofmilitarywings.com

Follow the links to 'Australia' and then go to 'Modern Air Crew'. Not all the information about the 'officer air crew' is correct.
Keg is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2006, 03:48
  #51 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: in the jungle
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
just wondering exactly what happened-
did the F111 loose a nose wheel while on the take off role?-did the wheel or wheels come off?- did the aircraft nose wheels run over FOD on the rwy causing a failure - what exactly happend??????
soldier of fortune is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2006, 06:30
  #52 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 1,394
Received 21 Likes on 7 Posts
Cable Arrestor System

Seems we all got it wrong. According to the Brisbane "Courier-Mail", its purpose is to "act as a hand brake on the plane".
Fris B. Fairing is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2006, 06:37
  #53 (permalink)  

Victor B1a
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Fremantle, Western Australia
Posts: 173
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
CONTROL.

Congrats to all involved.
Flying on an Aardvark with nothing but the hook on the ground is a truely class act so top marks to both Jockey and Nav (I don't care if the title has been changed).
Lotto tickets and beer would have been the call last night.
dmussen is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2006, 06:49
  #54 (permalink)  

Evertonian
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: #3117# Ppruner of the Year Nominee 2005
Posts: 12,515
Received 106 Likes on 60 Posts
did the aircraft nose wheels run over FOD on the rwy causing a failure
Bloody hell! Don't tell me there was a Continental DC10 in the vicinity?
Buster Hyman is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2006, 07:11
  #55 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Australia
Posts: 477
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Some pics, not mine I dont know who to credit for them...











Bevan..
Bevan666 is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2006, 07:46
  #56 (permalink)  
601
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Brisbane, Qld, Australia
Age: 78
Posts: 1,482
Received 19 Likes on 14 Posts
Didn't know that the F111 could follow terrain that low
601 is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2006, 08:28
  #57 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Australia
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Bevan.
Those pics were unclassified and release by the RAAF .

Cirrus
cirrus driver is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2006, 08:56
  #58 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 85
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Magoodotcom
Three hours of fuel gives you three hours of options to work on. Dump an hour or two of it, and suddenly you have fewer options!
Magoo

i id know that - i was just teasing. the pix on page 2 are simply awesome, and will be something they remember and tell stories about for ever
nzmarty is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2006, 09:12
  #59 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 1,219
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Keg
It still shows that the half wing is OK if you qualified pre 1 Dec 98!?!? Has there been a later directive saying that Nav's had to convert to the full wing? I also thought that former airmen such as Engineers could continue to wear their previous brevet rather than convert to the full wing brevet for non pilot officer aircrew?!?!?!
Shaky Shep put something out a week or so ago.. something about
"All navs wear the double wing from now on.." ..

then he said something about Cooee .
Pass-A-Frozo is offline  
Old 20th Jul 2006, 09:30
  #60 (permalink)  
Keg

Nunc est bibendum
 
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 5,583
Received 11 Likes on 2 Posts
Thumbs up

Thanks PAFie. Appreciate the info. ROFLMAO @ cooee comment.

Another amendment to make but one less thing to teach the ants.
Keg is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.