Airbus wants Jets out of Bankstown

[Starts with P]

The most important thing!

You forget the most important thing about Bankstown: It's a GAAP aerodrome with up to 1,500' and 2-3nm of airspace. Where are you going to fit an ILS? And then, when will it be used? The RNAV and NDB approaches are enough to get into BK 99.999% of the time, and there is no room in the airspace for the ILS. Especially on 29, but also on 11. Either straight though 'OCTA', or up into the downwind leg for Sydney 16/34, or base 07. They will have to be sequenced with Sydney traffic, and the 'rules of GAAP' will need to be suspended for the 100-seat aircraft however many times a day it will be required.

A freakin' Tecnam has trouble turning base for 29, or crosswind for 11 without busting Sydney's zone! How do you think a A318 will go?

[Normasars]

B A LERT

I sure hope that your comment re bug smasher is a wind up mate.

I can asure you that D8 procedures are as cumbersome and convoluted as any in this known universe.
Have u BAL eva flown the type? NO Then fuc# off.

How can a 30000kg a/c be called a "bugsmasher"


Goodluck with FlightSim2007 wanabe!

[ernestkgann]

It's a bugsmasher, albeit a healthy one, because 30 000kg makes it about a 3 hour fuel load on aircraft that aren't. I think it was tongue in cheek!

[RENURPP]

How can a 30000kg a/c be called a "bugsmasher"

I thought the discussion was re a dash 8..........30,000kg. Bit bloody heavy?

[Escape_Slide]

Geez man have airbus gone nuts or what??

Airbus is enough sh**t with planes let alone shoving the runway into the Hume Highway in an aborted takeoff. Maybe they will suggest an A380 next

[Led Zep]

Originally Posted by RENURPP

I thought the discussion was re a dash 8..........30,000kg. Bit bloody heavy?

Must mean two 100As. Or a 400 with 3000kg of extra freight "the boss" said had to go.

[MarkD]

it would mean getting the magic eraser out for this document though right?
http://www.bankstownairport.com.au/files/bnk_mp_14.pdf

Runway 11C/29C
Runway changes planned are:
runway extension by 220 metres to 1,635 metres.
The runway extension is needed to enable the majority of Code C aircraft to operate at Maximum Take-Off Weight (MTOW) without undue payload or stage length restrictions. This extension essentially links Runway 11C/29C to the loop taxiway at the eastern end of the runway complex. The runway extension is essentially for existing operation purposes. It does not make Bankstown Airport available to aircraft larger than can currently use the Airport. It does not make Bankstown Airport capable of accommodating Code 4 aircraft such as the B737 and the A320 (both of which require longer and wider runways). The Aviation Development Concept included in this MP categorically rules out the use of Bankstown Airport by these aircraft; and pavement strengthening as required.

Pavement strengthening is required to extend the effective life of the pavement. The level of usage by aircraft such as the BAe146 included in the forecasts would degrade the pavements somewhat and reduce their effective life. Strengthening essentially is intended to protect the effective life of high cost assets. Strengthening of the pavements does not make Bankstown Airport capable of accommodating Code 4 aircraft such as the B737 and the A320. The Aviation Development Concept included in this MP categorically rules out the use of Bankstown Airport by these aircraft.

[B A Lert]

Originally Posted by Normasars

B A LERT
I sure hope that your comment re bug smasher is a wind up mate.

Sure was Norma. Hughie and others could see through my flippancy. Please lighten up a bit - how would you like to be a 737 driver only to hear your colleagues refer to your vehicle as a "Light Twin" or, worse still, a "maggot"??


BTW, what is "FlightSim2007 wanabe"?

Cheers.

[Like This - Do That]

Originally Posted by Always_init

Get the State to put in a high speed rail link, boot the RAAF out, give us back our airspace, and most of the noise problems go away. The infrastructure is already in place, save a fortune. Go Willaimtown for my money.

A state that can't be arsed building a railway line to Castle Hill, or extend an existing line to Bondi or around to UNSW?

Richmond could conceivably be a goer for this sort of thing, as Scurvy points out. But the state would be looking at a bill of hundreds of millions to get the extra rail links, upgrade Windsor Rd, etc.

I remain sceptical about these sort of schemes ....