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hear , hear
ken you have a valid point.
Dash8 i agree with butterfield if i would write up every negative comment made by pax and mistakes done by lhr crew i'd be sitting all day long to add to the paper trail. as we all know HQ doesn't care. so we just hand out il duce's email address ([email protected]) and bypass the b**ls**t
Dash8 i agree with butterfield if i would write up every negative comment made by pax and mistakes done by lhr crew i'd be sitting all day long to add to the paper trail. as we all know HQ doesn't care. so we just hand out il duce's email address ([email protected]) and bypass the b**ls**t
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I agree with Ken Nuff...the only way to end the Gordon Gecko's of this world is for all the unions to combine...Greed is not acceptable from the corporate sector but if we continue to bicker with each other then Julius Dixon and his cohorts will continue ...
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A nuisance because I believe we should stop talking and take some positive steps or are you part of the gravy train and you don't want it touched.
I love my job and I want to see it saved. Dixon is incompetent in hard times. United we can do something; or we can keep whinging on this forum until like Ansett, we go out of existance, and if you don't believe it will happen, refelect upon how Hanio won the war. They remained united and eliminated the incompetent and corrupt US structure.
A nuisance because I believe we should stop talking and take some positive steps or are you part of the gravy train and you don't want it touched.
I love my job and I want to see it saved. Dixon is incompetent in hard times. United we can do something; or we can keep whinging on this forum until like Ansett, we go out of existance, and if you don't believe it will happen, refelect upon how Hanio won the war. They remained united and eliminated the incompetent and corrupt US structure.
Leane7,
Re: the BKK crew pattern you posted. How can you have a 24hr slip in FRA when the QF5 gets in at 5am(ish) and leaves as the QF6 around midnight that night? The minimum break you could have (assuming they get at least one night up there) is around the 39hr mark.
Speedbirdhouse,
Well the SYD based crew probably got up to the same sort of stuff (i.e. fun) back in the 1970s when they were in their 20s and having a good time. :argh:
Re: the BKK crew pattern you posted. How can you have a 24hr slip in FRA when the QF5 gets in at 5am(ish) and leaves as the QF6 around midnight that night? The minimum break you could have (assuming they get at least one night up there) is around the 39hr mark.
Speedbirdhouse,
BTW. Thank your "chav" [google it] collegues for getting us kicked out of Queens Park Hotel will you.
We were kicked out and now stay in the middle of nowhere because your lot forced the hotel to empty the pool TWICE due to drunken parties and broken glass.
IDIOTS
We were kicked out and now stay in the middle of nowhere because your lot forced the hotel to empty the pool TWICE due to drunken parties and broken glass.
IDIOTS
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Transition Layer,
So you admit the LHR based crew were responsible for the hotel move in BKK?
Is it true?
The bottom line is that if it were not for Julius Dixon the base pay and conditions would have been such that Australian crew could have moved there and been able to live and still saved the company money on accomodation and allowances but they were greedy and as such might just come back and bite them.
So you admit the LHR based crew were responsible for the hotel move in BKK?
Is it true?
The bottom line is that if it were not for Julius Dixon the base pay and conditions would have been such that Australian crew could have moved there and been able to live and still saved the company money on accomodation and allowances but they were greedy and as such might just come back and bite them.
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I actually have been looking attheir patterns and they arent that bad.
They are high in hours and good allowances.
I dont see them doing the SIN/DRW/ADL/MEL 24 HOURS
MEL/SIN
SIN/DRW/ADL/SYD
AKL and SYD MEL based crew are doing them!
what about PER/SYD transit 4 hours then SYD /DRW..
ummm hello
why in the hell is there this sudden concern for the TT's, I have never seen them ever concerned with what duties the LHR SYD MEL BNE AKL based crew do!
All I can say is that they were employed for their cheap labour!
I actually have been looking attheir patterns and they arent that bad.
They are high in hours and good allowances.
I dont see them doing the SIN/DRW/ADL/MEL 24 HOURS
MEL/SIN
SIN/DRW/ADL/SYD
AKL and SYD MEL based crew are doing them!
what about PER/SYD transit 4 hours then SYD /DRW..
ummm hello
why in the hell is there this sudden concern for the TT's, I have never seen them ever concerned with what duties the LHR SYD MEL BNE AKL based crew do!
All I can say is that they were employed for their cheap labour!
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Transition Layer,
we [cabin crew] drank our own booze around the pool of the Siam Intercontinental EVERY night for 20 + years.
Some parties in the GOD with dozens of crew.
Never was there an issue with broken glass or rubbish either in the pool or around.
Those left at the end of the night ALWAYS cleaned up the mess AND heavily tipped the pool boy who remained back for us.
Ours was once a culture where new recruits where taught quick smart by old hands that we were ambassadors for Qantas and Australia.
Noses were pulled for indescretions that reflected badly on us as crew or the company.
I speak of course for new cabin crew not pilots.........
Once to get the gig with QF you needed a degree of dare i say, "breeding".
Now all you need to be is cheap.
There are exceptions but generally speaking it shows.
Traylah Park anyone??
we [cabin crew] drank our own booze around the pool of the Siam Intercontinental EVERY night for 20 + years.
Some parties in the GOD with dozens of crew.
Never was there an issue with broken glass or rubbish either in the pool or around.
Those left at the end of the night ALWAYS cleaned up the mess AND heavily tipped the pool boy who remained back for us.
Ours was once a culture where new recruits where taught quick smart by old hands that we were ambassadors for Qantas and Australia.
Noses were pulled for indescretions that reflected badly on us as crew or the company.
I speak of course for new cabin crew not pilots.........
Once to get the gig with QF you needed a degree of dare i say, "breeding".
Now all you need to be is cheap.
There are exceptions but generally speaking it shows.
Traylah Park anyone??
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Speedbirdhouse you are 1000% correct
It used to be about manners and courtesy...not any more
The more QF employs cheap trailer trash the more it and its reputation will be brought into disrepute.
When employees have no loyalty to their company and are here for the short term, a care factor of zero becomes prevalent
So it is now
Stay for three to five years...shop,party,bonk with no regard for anyone.
No thank you for transport drivers,hotel staff and shoot your mouth in restaurants and bars about being QF CC.Then, once everyone is in no doubt who you work for, vomit over the table and expect the staff to clean up.
This didnt happen up the track but in a Sydney restaurant about six weeks ago.
The comments among patrons about QF CC were anything but flattering.
These clowns were around 25yo and were publicly disparaging about QF,the restaurant and the staff.
When questioned they told a staff member they were MAM casuals and then told him to pis* off
Wonder what type of service they offer on the kite?
Sounds like LHR crew arent much better!!!!
It used to be about manners and courtesy...not any more
The more QF employs cheap trailer trash the more it and its reputation will be brought into disrepute.
When employees have no loyalty to their company and are here for the short term, a care factor of zero becomes prevalent
So it is now
Stay for three to five years...shop,party,bonk with no regard for anyone.
No thank you for transport drivers,hotel staff and shoot your mouth in restaurants and bars about being QF CC.Then, once everyone is in no doubt who you work for, vomit over the table and expect the staff to clean up.
This didnt happen up the track but in a Sydney restaurant about six weeks ago.
The comments among patrons about QF CC were anything but flattering.
These clowns were around 25yo and were publicly disparaging about QF,the restaurant and the staff.
When questioned they told a staff member they were MAM casuals and then told him to pis* off
Wonder what type of service they offer on the kite?
Sounds like LHR crew arent much better!!!!
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Midnight.
the FAAA don't have to give any kind of dispensation for any patterns operated by the AKL base crew. You are on your own! (surprised they gave the dispensation to AUS based crew)
Leane I and a lot of people welcome you honest and factual comments.
Midnight 63 is a str!ke breaker from Australia one of the crew that have allowed QF to implement the conditions you now have,
She has no credibility and therefore should be ignored .
Leane keep up the good work and please feel free to express your opinion in any way.
Leane I hope one day we can employ people like you in SYD, in the meantime midnight you better learn the Hakka as you will be there for quite a while
the FAAA don't have to give any kind of dispensation for any patterns operated by the AKL base crew. You are on your own! (surprised they gave the dispensation to AUS based crew)
Leane I and a lot of people welcome you honest and factual comments.
Midnight 63 is a str!ke breaker from Australia one of the crew that have allowed QF to implement the conditions you now have,
She has no credibility and therefore should be ignored .
Leane keep up the good work and please feel free to express your opinion in any way.
Leane I hope one day we can employ people like you in SYD, in the meantime midnight you better learn the Hakka as you will be there for quite a while
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Originally Posted by OCCR
Midnight 63 is a str!ke breaker from Australia one of the crew that have allowed QF to implement the conditions you now have,
She has no credibility and therefore should be ignored .
She has no credibility and therefore should be ignored .
How about we all stick to the facts (think or confirm before you type), stop spreading the bull, and play the ball and not the man/woman?
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OCCR I am glad you have had a change of style and amended your original post.
Far more mature of you.
As for this gem by mostie,
I am really amazed that this sort of sentiment still exists.
Ok, now I would understand this if you actually know this person, know that they took the job with QF on contract when we were planning industrial action, to INTENTIONALLY (I'm highlighting not shouting HANOI) be a strikebreaker.
I don't see any evidence to suggest that this is the case.
If there is please correct me, but until then, I doubt that any people who took LHR, AKL, QF fixed term whatever and whenever, did so to strikebreak.
They did so because their dream of flying for QF had a chance to be realised.
Also before judging these people, we did not even go on strike, so how could anyone be a strikebreaker when we didn't go on strike.
You don't know that some of these people when faced with that actual circumstance of working while we were taking industrial action, may have had a change of heart.
As for the people who worked when we had the stop work meeting 3 years ago, I doubt that the same people you are referring to were involved.
(again please correct me if I am wrong and give up on the personal attacks anyone else that is contemplating them)
Far more mature of you.
Originally Posted by mostie
Ignore lowlife strikebreaking scum on the aircraft AND off it.
I am really amazed that this sort of sentiment still exists.
Ok, now I would understand this if you actually know this person, know that they took the job with QF on contract when we were planning industrial action, to INTENTIONALLY (I'm highlighting not shouting HANOI) be a strikebreaker.
I don't see any evidence to suggest that this is the case.
If there is please correct me, but until then, I doubt that any people who took LHR, AKL, QF fixed term whatever and whenever, did so to strikebreak.
They did so because their dream of flying for QF had a chance to be realised.
Also before judging these people, we did not even go on strike, so how could anyone be a strikebreaker when we didn't go on strike.
You don't know that some of these people when faced with that actual circumstance of working while we were taking industrial action, may have had a change of heart.
As for the people who worked when we had the stop work meeting 3 years ago, I doubt that the same people you are referring to were involved.
(again please correct me if I am wrong and give up on the personal attacks anyone else that is contemplating them)
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Twiggs,
Quote from twiggs "Also before judging these people, we did not even go on strike, so how could anyone be a strikebreaker when we didn't go on strike."
If someone is trained to take the place of existing staff who are contemplating industrial action then if they are not strikebreakers what do you call them ?
They were employed with the distinct view of negating the effect of any industrial action we might take.When the smoke had cleared and there was no industrial action the company showed their definition of loyalty and would only give them a job away from home.
The fact that we did not take any industrial action or strike does not change , diminish or alter in any way their design and purpose which was to thwart us
Quote from twiggs "Also before judging these people, we did not even go on strike, so how could anyone be a strikebreaker when we didn't go on strike."
If someone is trained to take the place of existing staff who are contemplating industrial action then if they are not strikebreakers what do you call them ?
They were employed with the distinct view of negating the effect of any industrial action we might take.When the smoke had cleared and there was no industrial action the company showed their definition of loyalty and would only give them a job away from home.
The fact that we did not take any industrial action or strike does not change , diminish or alter in any way their design and purpose which was to thwart us