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Thanks for the kind offer crossbleed but not required.
I don't know what was in my last post that got some so worked up...it was merely an observation on my part based on experience and informed discussion with those who have been through QF testing...and those who joined QF decades before the current method was in place and have no doubt they couldn't pass it....and yet somehow manage to command QF jets despite this obvious character flaw
BTW...99%+ of the comment posted in this thread on J*'s recent recruiting is 100% WRONG!!!
And NO I am not going to post detail...you'll just have to take my word for it.
I don't know what was in my last post that got some so worked up...it was merely an observation on my part based on experience and informed discussion with those who have been through QF testing...and those who joined QF decades before the current method was in place and have no doubt they couldn't pass it....and yet somehow manage to command QF jets despite this obvious character flaw
BTW...99%+ of the comment posted in this thread on J*'s recent recruiting is 100% WRONG!!!
And NO I am not going to post detail...you'll just have to take my word for it.
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All the pilots I know in various outfits around the world have a distrust and dislike of their psych department...all that is, except QF etat. What is is that makes them so special that you trust their judgment so completely?
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Big statement Chimbu.
Given that I related what; I heard with my own ears, saw with my own eyes (and gulped with my own mouth), I for one can dispute your claim.
You forget that the "mates first" policy is no secret.
BTW which part of this thread do you dispute?
Given that I related what; I heard with my own ears, saw with my own eyes (and gulped with my own mouth), I for one can dispute your claim.
You forget that the "mates first" policy is no secret.
BTW which part of this thread do you dispute?
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Not one, not a single sole solitary one pilot currently flying the 717 for NJS who was trained, checked and cleared to line by J*s very own check and training department and have received reccomendations from their C/C captains, has received a first interview with J*.
Now if you were management at J* and you had a ready supply of pilots who had been through your very own training department, had been trained with your SOP's and to your company standards, and whose up to date training records are in your own archive, wouldn't it be logical to at the very least offer them a first round of interviews?
Go figure that one.
Now if you were management at J* and you had a ready supply of pilots who had been through your very own training department, had been trained with your SOP's and to your company standards, and whose up to date training records are in your own archive, wouldn't it be logical to at the very least offer them a first round of interviews?
Go figure that one.
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Scram77, talk to anyone from Easterns/Sunstate. They can put you in the picture. QF avoid taking pilots from subsidiarys except for the token few. That's to avoid discrimination claims.
I'd say you guys are in the same boat.
I'd say you guys are in the same boat.
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Nah Pete, They are through now. The only guys left on the 717 are now a good half way down the senioroty list. I think only a handful of skippers flying together to allow the F/O's to move to the 320.
BIG STATEMENT SCRAMJET
Scramjet, I love the total conviction with which you state "FACT, not one single solitary NJS 717 pilot trained by Jetstar has been offered stage one with Jetstar."
For your statement to be categorically true you would have to be personally in touch with everyone of those pilots to be able to speak for them.
Because here is the FACT - I have a mate in NJS, flies the 717, trained by Jetstar who has a stage one with Jetstar very very soon.
So my friend, you are very, very wrong.
Trev
For your statement to be categorically true you would have to be personally in touch with everyone of those pilots to be able to speak for them.
Because here is the FACT - I have a mate in NJS, flies the 717, trained by Jetstar who has a stage one with Jetstar very very soon.
So my friend, you are very, very wrong.
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If he's a FO he has a chance. If he's a captain I bet he "is not competitive" in the P&S.
You see that keeps the 'experience' in the subsidiaries . Cant have those puddle-jumpers pranging now can we?
You see that keeps the 'experience' in the subsidiaries . Cant have those puddle-jumpers pranging now can we?
For Jetstar domestic. An F/O.
Dodgy - not the case. Scramjet says "has received an interview..." Not "has had an interview". I take that to mean has received an offer of an interview. So "has had" is not the operative word as scramjet doesn't day "has had."
Dodgy - not the case. Scramjet says "has received an interview..." Not "has had an interview". I take that to mean has received an offer of an interview. So "has had" is not the operative word as scramjet doesn't day "has had."
In the recent past I have heard of Qantaslink pilots interviewed but not too many made it through. Infact, I understand that the EOI was not a very successful exercise.
Had a little smile the other day reading the old memo for the EOI .
Had a little smile the other day reading the old memo for the EOI .
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Yeh, Hoss... that all got knocked on the head pretty quick smart by EEA management once a stream went through successfully (some time back) and they realised how many others had already been tested/eval... the flood gates WERE about to open there finally!. Very sad.
P.S. You still wearing boaties there?
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Dear Trev,
The person you speak of was not known to J* recruitment as a 717 driver. They had infact thought that he was still at his previous place of employment. And no, he has not yet had his interview. So.... try again Trev. Actually that would be a better name than threvor the lover, I mean, trevor the lover of what..........Barn yard animals?:
Actually as a post script to my post this morning, I believe that there has been 2 phone calls from J* to NJS pilots. So maybe things are changing. By the By, neither of them are captains.
Love you Trev OOXX
The person you speak of was not known to J* recruitment as a 717 driver. They had infact thought that he was still at his previous place of employment. And no, he has not yet had his interview. So.... try again Trev. Actually that would be a better name than threvor the lover, I mean, trevor the lover of what..........Barn yard animals?:
Actually as a post script to my post this morning, I believe that there has been 2 phone calls from J* to NJS pilots. So maybe things are changing. By the By, neither of them are captains.
Love you Trev OOXX
Scrammers,
Nowhere in your previous post did you say NJS 717 pilots had "HAD" a J* interview. I believe that in the 3 or so paragraphs that you wrote you were making the point that J* were in no way interested in the 717 NJS product. I was mereley pointing out, with no vitriole, which you have resorted to with your barnyard animals quip, that maybe J* ARE becoming interested in the product.
Secondly I believe that the person you have referred to as having been offered an interview is not the person I am referring to. You said J* thought he was with a previous employer. For a start he has been with NJS for quite a while but only recently applied to J* - so why would they think he was still with his previous employer. And of course they know this guy is a 717 driver - he would not leave that fact off his CV.
And lastly, please, if someone beggars to differ from you, don't go firing off with offensive and unnecessary vitriole. Play the argument and make your case - you will win far more respect that way.
Trev the excellent lover
Nowhere in your previous post did you say NJS 717 pilots had "HAD" a J* interview. I believe that in the 3 or so paragraphs that you wrote you were making the point that J* were in no way interested in the 717 NJS product. I was mereley pointing out, with no vitriole, which you have resorted to with your barnyard animals quip, that maybe J* ARE becoming interested in the product.
Secondly I believe that the person you have referred to as having been offered an interview is not the person I am referring to. You said J* thought he was with a previous employer. For a start he has been with NJS for quite a while but only recently applied to J* - so why would they think he was still with his previous employer. And of course they know this guy is a 717 driver - he would not leave that fact off his CV.
And lastly, please, if someone beggars to differ from you, don't go firing off with offensive and unnecessary vitriole. Play the argument and make your case - you will win far more respect that way.
Trev the excellent lover
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Unless I'm mistaken trev, you're mate been offered the phsyc test, if so he has'nt been invited for an interview ( until he passes said bs test ), and in that case is'nt scrammers kinda right ?
" not 1 etc etc has recieved a 1st interview with jet* "
The sic test is not an interview is it ?
" not 1 etc etc has recieved a 1st interview with jet* "
The sic test is not an interview is it ?
Cunny,
Yep, technically I reckon you are correct.
Would like to know though, was that actually what Scrammy meant by "interview". Was he/she being specific to interview as opposed to psyche testing - I suspect not, but will certainly stand humbly corrected if that is in fact the case.
And Scrammy - note how Cunny was able to correct me without resorting to calling me a dog fondler, sheep shagger, chicken scruffer or any other childish insult. See - it can be done. Cunny has my respect as probably a decent chappy.
Trevor the experienced Lover
Yep, technically I reckon you are correct.
Would like to know though, was that actually what Scrammy meant by "interview". Was he/she being specific to interview as opposed to psyche testing - I suspect not, but will certainly stand humbly corrected if that is in fact the case.
And Scrammy - note how Cunny was able to correct me without resorting to calling me a dog fondler, sheep shagger, chicken scruffer or any other childish insult. See - it can be done. Cunny has my respect as probably a decent chappy.
Trevor the experienced Lover