Air New Zealand (Mount Cook Airline) Pilots on Strike.
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Air New Zealand (Mount Cook Airline) Pilots on Strike.
Mount Cook pilots (yeh the ATR72 drivers) I hear are withdrawing all overtime from the 13 April. How much will this disrupt the schedules? And what is their problem? Is it negotiations/ industrial?
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Nice troll....not very subtle thou'
Two posts and both seeking reaction to the same question; Guess that makes you Management.
That would be you....
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And what is their problem?
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'Working to rule' is normally the first stage of strike action. Not sure about the impact on Mount Cook, but Eagle certainly aren't able to operate properly without pilots accepting call outs. I gather for the MC boys and girls, this means not being available for work on their 5th day off. Given that they don't roster standbys, this could be very tricky for the company.
This is the point when the company typically withdraws staff travel 'privileges', and possibly tries to cancel leave.
This is the point when the company typically withdraws staff travel 'privileges', and possibly tries to cancel leave.
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Cloud mate...not trying to split hairs here.....but direct me to where not doing overtime is considered the "first actions" of a strike.....
In the "real" world a strike vote is taken,and if that succeeds,then overtime is refused...(from experience)
Have the MC pilots taken such action? or is it a lot of chinwaggle and waving sabre,s......dont get me wrong ..I wish them the best
In the "real" world a strike vote is taken,and if that succeeds,then overtime is refused...(from experience)
Have the MC pilots taken such action? or is it a lot of chinwaggle and waving sabre,s......dont get me wrong ..I wish them the best
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I can only speak from my experience with Eagle industrial actions. The first step was a call-out ban, followed by a full strike which thankfully didn't go ahead. The reason for this was pretty funny actually - the courier company, who assured the union that the strike notice would be issued on time, delivered late, making the strike illegal. Thankfully an acceptable contract was reached and the whole process worked as it's supposed to.
From my limited knowledge of goings on at Mount Cook, management are not playing ball with the new contract, and the Union is standing their ground. There is concern about their future, with Air Nelson operating the Q300 (and Air NZ holding options on more Q3/400s). I'm sure everything will work out, and wish them all the best. As the most profitable part of Air NZ, they do hold significant negotiating power.
From my limited knowledge of goings on at Mount Cook, management are not playing ball with the new contract, and the Union is standing their ground. There is concern about their future, with Air Nelson operating the Q300 (and Air NZ holding options on more Q3/400s). I'm sure everything will work out, and wish them all the best. As the most profitable part of Air NZ, they do hold significant negotiating power.
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Cloud Cutter......
Word on the street is they might be walking on thin ice with any proposed action.
Forward thinking would be beneficial in cases like that.
The boys in NSN might be in for a windfall.
I'm sure everything will work out, and wish them all the best. As the most profitable part of Air NZ, they do hold significant negotiating power.
Forward thinking would be beneficial in cases like that.
The boys in NSN might be in for a windfall.
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Good luck to the boys and girls at COOK, its not like your asking for a hell of alot!
TO THE REST:
Working to rule is just a good tool to use in this case, no call outs, meal breaks on time ect ect makes a company realise very quickly just how much they depend on pilot good will to get them through a working week.
From experience with working to rule and in EAG's case it would have only taken a few days of operation before the company was in serious trouble. If my memory serves me rite EAG pilots do that many call outs over the course of the year that its worth more than a Captains salary (not that that sayin much
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Once again good luck, hope it dosen't get to ugly
TO THE REST:
Working to rule is just a good tool to use in this case, no call outs, meal breaks on time ect ect makes a company realise very quickly just how much they depend on pilot good will to get them through a working week.
From experience with working to rule and in EAG's case it would have only taken a few days of operation before the company was in serious trouble. If my memory serves me rite EAG pilots do that many call outs over the course of the year that its worth more than a Captains salary (not that that sayin much
) Once again good luck, hope it dosen't get to ugly
One post, registered this month, not a mate of Eurekas' are you?
Which street might this be?
Care to expand on what you mean here?
I hear that some of the issues are the unilateral changing of some allowances and conditions by management without any negotiation.
Word on the street is they might be walking on thin ice with any proposed action
Forward thinking would be beneficial in cases like that.
I hear that some of the issues are the unilateral changing of some allowances and conditions by management without any negotiation.
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I have heard that 'word on the street' as well. But the guys and girls at Chook are doing a good job of calling the bluff, which is what I hope it is. They are only asking for their contract to be kept in line with previous years progress, and in proportion with National. I would certainly hope they have the full support of the Air Nelson pilot group, who will (hopefully) refuse to undercut them.
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I have been on several pilot negotiating groups where the company would not comply with the contract.....an arbitrator told me once......Contracts are made............to be broken!!!!
reckon this is just another example of mgt kuri...
Best of luck to the MC pilot group
reckon this is just another example of mgt kuri...
Best of luck to the MC pilot group
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Hardly Management
Far from it ... eureka stockade and all ...thats if you know any history of the union movement in Aus.. so far from the management you will probably never no but you can e-mail me and i will reveal all . Union through and through.
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Thump and go, because if we put aside for a second the fact that it isn't a proper company, as the NZ Govt is it's sole remaining major shareholder (since they screwed Singapore). And the NZ govt doesn't really care if it makes money or not, they are going to continue propping it up in some misguided belief that the NZ economy can't cope without it in it's present form. If we put all this aside, then there is no way a normal company could expect the profit levels of one of it's smaller subsidiaries to carry the rest of the non-performing operations or even provide for a dividend that would keep enough of the shareholders happy that major changes wouldn't be inevitable.
I am sure there are plenty of management students doing case studies on Air NZ and I doubt many of them are saying the business can survive in it's present form.
Cloudcutter, Mt Cook is most profitable based on what?
I am sure there are plenty of management students doing case studies on Air NZ and I doubt many of them are saying the business can survive in it's present form.
Cloudcutter, Mt Cook is most profitable based on what?