Merged: Ozjet to cease RPT operations.
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Merged: Ozjet to cease RPT operations.
Heard just now from a friend at ozjet,
they were called about 7pm and advised that RPT ops would be ceasing, ozjet to remain soley as a charter operation.
Spose to be a press release at 8pm so watch the late news...
Hoping my source isnt pulling my leg, no reason to doubt tho - anyway, if true, best of luck to everyone there, you gave it you best shot!
Their website is no longer accepting bookings, not even for tomorrow. The feeling I got was tonight is the last night of ops.
they were called about 7pm and advised that RPT ops would be ceasing, ozjet to remain soley as a charter operation.
Spose to be a press release at 8pm so watch the late news...
Hoping my source isnt pulling my leg, no reason to doubt tho - anyway, if true, best of luck to everyone there, you gave it you best shot!
Their website is no longer accepting bookings, not even for tomorrow. The feeling I got was tonight is the last night of ops.
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Ozjet Airlines suspends flights
From: AAP
March 12, 2006
BUSINESS class airline OzJet, Australia's newest domestic passenger carrier, has suspended its scheduled flights between Melbourne and Sydney.
OzJet chairman Paul Stoddart said in a statement tonight the decision to immediately stop flying scheduled services was made with great regret.
"Unfortunately, for whatever reasons, we have not had the support we needed to operate in that environment against big, established carriers," Mr Stoddart said.
"It's very, very disappointing, particularly, I'm sure, for those people who had started travelling regularly with us between Melbourne and Sydney and many of our very diligent and loyal employees.
"Sad to say, there have not been enough of those regular customers.
"We will now concentrate, with a reduced workforce, on charter operations.
"No paying passenger booked on OzJet will be unduly disadvantaged - they can either receive a refund from OzJet or transfer without any additional cost to Qantas, which has kindly offered to assist in transporting people who have booked and paid for tickets with OzJet."
From: AAP
March 12, 2006
BUSINESS class airline OzJet, Australia's newest domestic passenger carrier, has suspended its scheduled flights between Melbourne and Sydney.
OzJet chairman Paul Stoddart said in a statement tonight the decision to immediately stop flying scheduled services was made with great regret.
"Unfortunately, for whatever reasons, we have not had the support we needed to operate in that environment against big, established carriers," Mr Stoddart said.
"It's very, very disappointing, particularly, I'm sure, for those people who had started travelling regularly with us between Melbourne and Sydney and many of our very diligent and loyal employees.
"Sad to say, there have not been enough of those regular customers.
"We will now concentrate, with a reduced workforce, on charter operations.
"No paying passenger booked on OzJet will be unduly disadvantaged - they can either receive a refund from OzJet or transfer without any additional cost to Qantas, which has kindly offered to assist in transporting people who have booked and paid for tickets with OzJet."
They had the right idea...they had a good setup (wasn't a fan of the medievil 732's though)...but their marketing was atrocious...and I do believe its one of the major contributing factors...
Good work for giving it a try....
Good work for giving it a try....
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Did they have a Qantas Club equivilent? I know one factor on me deciding whether or not to use them on the (now not) planned Syd-Per route was the fact I have QF Club membership.
I'm not sure the regular QF flyers who were gold FF members (with associated free QF Club membership) would have been interested in missing out on that.
I'm not sure the regular QF flyers who were gold FF members (with associated free QF Club membership) would have been interested in missing out on that.
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Ozjet - no surprise at all
The idea may have worked if they had entered service the week after Ansett went under. In todays market they don't have enough frequency, lounges, Freq flyer, marketing, etc to survive in a more discerning business market. They also launched at the wrong time of year - just in time for the lull between Feb and June. Was just a matter of time. Sorry to those involved.
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Originally Posted by gameboy1971
The idea may have worked if they had entered service the week after Ansett went under. In todays market they don't have enough frequency, lounges, Freq flyer, marketing, etc to survive in a more discerning business market. They also launched at the wrong time of year - just in time for the lull between Feb and June. Was just a matter of time. Sorry to those involved.
1. They launched before Xmas last year
2. The "lull between Feb and June " ... dont know what industry you referring to, but in domestic travel, Feb is when all the corporates get back to business after the Xmas/January school holidays
Be interested to hear what Eastwest Loco has to say about their attempt and demise at getting a foot in the AUS domestic scene .. Ron, where are you?
Nunc est bibendum
What a shame, I'd heard some decent reports about their service and was hoping that they'd make a go of it! So sorry to those who are now struggling.
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Right here Hamo
Yet another tragedy for the industry as a whole.
Ozjet had the right product. The passengers my office booked with them were hooked first flight. The big marketing problem they faced was how to best impact their target market. Finding that market at a reasonable price is the trick, and a damned hard trick to master at that without a near bottomless advertising budget.
Hamo is correct - the black hole for corporate traffic is late November through early February and this certainly didnt help.
Other startup problems are going up against full frequency when yours must have gaps until demand decrees otherwise.
I know for a fact that Matty and all the O7 crew lacked nothing at all in the amount of time and effort they poured into making it work. It is a major credit to them.
Hopefully the charter operation will bear fruit and keep as many of their people on the ground and in the air employed as is practicable.
A sad day indeed.
EWL
ps: O7 inventory has been "zeroed" on all services from tomorrow in Sabre which is the host system. No rebookings have come through to accommodate ticketed passengers as yet, so I have rebooked mine in anticipation of document interchange. Unticketeds I have just rebooked onto closest QF flight.
Yet another tragedy for the industry as a whole.
Ozjet had the right product. The passengers my office booked with them were hooked first flight. The big marketing problem they faced was how to best impact their target market. Finding that market at a reasonable price is the trick, and a damned hard trick to master at that without a near bottomless advertising budget.
Hamo is correct - the black hole for corporate traffic is late November through early February and this certainly didnt help.
Other startup problems are going up against full frequency when yours must have gaps until demand decrees otherwise.
I know for a fact that Matty and all the O7 crew lacked nothing at all in the amount of time and effort they poured into making it work. It is a major credit to them.
Hopefully the charter operation will bear fruit and keep as many of their people on the ground and in the air employed as is practicable.
A sad day indeed.
EWL
ps: O7 inventory has been "zeroed" on all services from tomorrow in Sabre which is the host system. No rebookings have come through to accommodate ticketed passengers as yet, so I have rebooked mine in anticipation of document interchange. Unticketeds I have just rebooked onto closest QF flight.
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They folded quicker than I thought.
Starting services in December and January wasn't their best move and the fact that fuel was hovering about the USD$60 mark wouldn't have help.
Good luck to those who have got to find a new job.
Starting services in December and January wasn't their best move and the fact that fuel was hovering about the USD$60 mark wouldn't have help.
Good luck to those who have got to find a new job.
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Well, after recently comming back from overseas after quite some time, it was quite a novelty to see the new airlines 737 in the parking bay at Sydney airport. I did hope for good things for Ozjet. Maybe its just cause im sick of
Qantas having the monopoly here in Australia for way to long.
Qantas having the monopoly here in Australia for way to long.
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looks like another kill for the major(s)
compass
compass II
TAA
kiwi air
ansett NZ
Ansett Australia
and after an short Battle
Oz-Jet
and maybe Australian Airlines (II)
sorry if i have forgoten any but this is just an example
compass
compass II
TAA
kiwi air
ansett NZ
Ansett Australia
and after an short Battle
Oz-Jet
and maybe Australian Airlines (II)
sorry if i have forgoten any but this is just an example
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Should we not forget Impulse as well.
I an very sad that OZjet failed, as I too am sick of travelling with QF.
I think the mistake that they made was attempting the well travelled and well failed SYD-MEL market as their first sector - where is the benefit of business class on such a short sector ? thereafter the poor marketing, and god who designed that website ?
Really I wanted to fly OZjet but they just didn't operate services to anywhere that I fly to!!
I am very sad that Ozjet weren't able to show QF that people are sick of QF's crap.
Denny Crane
I an very sad that OZjet failed, as I too am sick of travelling with QF.
I think the mistake that they made was attempting the well travelled and well failed SYD-MEL market as their first sector - where is the benefit of business class on such a short sector ? thereafter the poor marketing, and god who designed that website ?
Really I wanted to fly OZjet but they just didn't operate services to anywhere that I fly to!!
I am very sad that Ozjet weren't able to show QF that people are sick of QF's crap.
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OzJet flights grounded after three months
Mon "The Australian"
OzJet flights grounded after three months
Steve Creedy and Elizabeth Gosch
March 13, 2006
BUSINESS class airline OzJet has axed its domestic service just three months after launching a bold push to take well-heeled customers away from Qantas and Virgin Blue.
The airline said last night it was cancelling services between Sydney and Melbourne and would not proceed with planned flights to Perth, unveiled last month.
OzJet chief executive Hans van Pelt said about 70 of the airline's 100 employees would lose their jobs as a result of the decision.
OzJet, founded by Australian Formula 1 investor Paul Stoddart, plans to keep at least two aircraft operating in Australia and to pursue charter work.
Mr van Pelt said OzJet customers who had already travelled one leg of a journey would be transferred without extra cost to Qantas flights between now and March 24.
Those who had not started their journey would get a full refund or could get a Qantas seat at the same price if they contacted the airline by the end of the week.
Mr van Pelt said OzJet had not attracted enough customers to make the service viable.
"It just comes down to could we get the numbers to make it work," Mr van Pelt said.
"And the reality is we just can't see where it's coming from and for whatever reason we can't get the support to operate in this environment.
"We just can't go on losing money. It's fair to say we gave it a go and it's become clear we weren't going to achieve it in the immediate future."
OzJet has brought four aircraft into Australia, and Mr van Pelt said the company was working through its future.
He said some staff would become redundant but the airline would honour all its commitments.
"But the reality is we will probably downscale to a minimum of two aircraft and about 30 per cent of the staff," he said.
OzJet hit turbulence as recently as last week when it announced the delay of its proposed Perth services because of lack of support for a proposed red-eye flight.
The aviation industry had been highly sceptical of the start-up's chance of survival, particularly when it chose to begin operations over Christmas, a traditionally quiet period for business travel.
Mr van Pelt said the decision to axe the airline services had been a tough one.
"It's disappointing, what else can you say," he said. "It's with great regret that we have to do it, and it's just really unfortunate.
OzJet chairman Paul Stoddart said the airline had been unable to compete against Australia's other established carriers.
"Unfortunately, for whatever reasons, we have not had the support we needed to operate in that environment against big established carriers," Mr Stoddart said in a statement.
"It's very, very disappointing, particularly, I'm sure, for those people who had started travelling regularly with us between Melbourne and Sydney and many of our very diligent and loyal employees. Sad to say, there have not been enough of the regular customers."
The Melbourne-based airline struggled from the start, delaying its launch last year from July to October and then to November because it took longer than expected to obtain approval to operate from the Civil Aviation Safety Authority.
OzJet then cut prices and revised its schedule just a week after launching and struggled to attract customers, with reports some flights were carrying just three passengers.
However, in February Mr Stoddart said things were looking up, with the airline's load factors hitting 50 per cent.
"The bookings over the last couple of weeks have really, really picked up," he told the Nine Network.
Yesterday he said "no paying passenger booked on OzJet" would be disadvantaged from the cancellation of the service.
"They can either receive a refund from OzJet or transfer without any additional cost to Qantas, which has kindly offered to assist in transporting people who have booked and paid for tickets with OzJet," he said.
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OzJet flights grounded after three months
Steve Creedy and Elizabeth Gosch
March 13, 2006
BUSINESS class airline OzJet has axed its domestic service just three months after launching a bold push to take well-heeled customers away from Qantas and Virgin Blue.
The airline said last night it was cancelling services between Sydney and Melbourne and would not proceed with planned flights to Perth, unveiled last month.
OzJet chief executive Hans van Pelt said about 70 of the airline's 100 employees would lose their jobs as a result of the decision.
OzJet, founded by Australian Formula 1 investor Paul Stoddart, plans to keep at least two aircraft operating in Australia and to pursue charter work.
Mr van Pelt said OzJet customers who had already travelled one leg of a journey would be transferred without extra cost to Qantas flights between now and March 24.
Those who had not started their journey would get a full refund or could get a Qantas seat at the same price if they contacted the airline by the end of the week.
Mr van Pelt said OzJet had not attracted enough customers to make the service viable.
"It just comes down to could we get the numbers to make it work," Mr van Pelt said.
"And the reality is we just can't see where it's coming from and for whatever reason we can't get the support to operate in this environment.
"We just can't go on losing money. It's fair to say we gave it a go and it's become clear we weren't going to achieve it in the immediate future."
OzJet has brought four aircraft into Australia, and Mr van Pelt said the company was working through its future.
He said some staff would become redundant but the airline would honour all its commitments.
"But the reality is we will probably downscale to a minimum of two aircraft and about 30 per cent of the staff," he said.
OzJet hit turbulence as recently as last week when it announced the delay of its proposed Perth services because of lack of support for a proposed red-eye flight.
The aviation industry had been highly sceptical of the start-up's chance of survival, particularly when it chose to begin operations over Christmas, a traditionally quiet period for business travel.
Mr van Pelt said the decision to axe the airline services had been a tough one.
"It's disappointing, what else can you say," he said. "It's with great regret that we have to do it, and it's just really unfortunate.
OzJet chairman Paul Stoddart said the airline had been unable to compete against Australia's other established carriers.
"Unfortunately, for whatever reasons, we have not had the support we needed to operate in that environment against big established carriers," Mr Stoddart said in a statement.
"It's very, very disappointing, particularly, I'm sure, for those people who had started travelling regularly with us between Melbourne and Sydney and many of our very diligent and loyal employees. Sad to say, there have not been enough of the regular customers."
The Melbourne-based airline struggled from the start, delaying its launch last year from July to October and then to November because it took longer than expected to obtain approval to operate from the Civil Aviation Safety Authority.
OzJet then cut prices and revised its schedule just a week after launching and struggled to attract customers, with reports some flights were carrying just three passengers.
However, in February Mr Stoddart said things were looking up, with the airline's load factors hitting 50 per cent.
"The bookings over the last couple of weeks have really, really picked up," he told the Nine Network.
Yesterday he said "no paying passenger booked on OzJet" would be disadvantaged from the cancellation of the service.
"They can either receive a refund from OzJet or transfer without any additional cost to Qantas, which has kindly offered to assist in transporting people who have booked and paid for tickets with OzJet," he said.
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A good many European Aviation people are still owed money after being made redundent by Mister Stoddard.
Make sure you get what you're entitled to before he leaves town...
Make sure you get what you're entitled to before he leaves town...
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OzJet have stopped flying!
It would appear that OzJet are no longer flying!
http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...098351858.html
http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...098351858.html