Another QF route goes to Jetstar
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Another QF route goes to Jetstar
The Jetstar juggernaut rolls on, with the latest announcement that Jetstar will replace QF on the Melbourne-Darwin route:
QANTAS MEDIA RELEASE
DARWIN, 1 March 2006: The Qantas Group today announced changes to its Darwin
schedule, including the start of Jetstar services to the Northern Territory from 1 May.
The new schedule will see Qantas and Jetstar operating services to Darwin from both
Brisbane and Adelaide and Jetstar replacing Qantas on services to Darwin from
Melbourne. Qantas Executive General Manager John Borghetti said that the new schedule would offer
more than 700 additional seats each week plus maintain existing frequencies offered by
the Qantas Group.
Under the new Qantas Group schedule starting from 1 May:
• Qantas will operate a daily service between Darwin and Brisbane, while Jetstar will
operate a further six weekly return services;
• Qantas will operate a daily service between Darwin and Adelaide, while Jetstar will
operate another two services per week; and
• Jetstar will operate six weekly return services each week between Darwin and
Melbourne from 1 May, increasing to a daily service from 1 July.
“Darwin is an important market for the Qantas Group and these changes reflect our
commitment to providing a sustainable service and better meeting the needs of
passengers travelling on these routes,” Mr Borghetti said.
QANTAS MEDIA RELEASE
DARWIN, 1 March 2006: The Qantas Group today announced changes to its Darwin
schedule, including the start of Jetstar services to the Northern Territory from 1 May.
The new schedule will see Qantas and Jetstar operating services to Darwin from both
Brisbane and Adelaide and Jetstar replacing Qantas on services to Darwin from
Melbourne. Qantas Executive General Manager John Borghetti said that the new schedule would offer
more than 700 additional seats each week plus maintain existing frequencies offered by
the Qantas Group.
Under the new Qantas Group schedule starting from 1 May:
• Qantas will operate a daily service between Darwin and Brisbane, while Jetstar will
operate a further six weekly return services;
• Qantas will operate a daily service between Darwin and Adelaide, while Jetstar will
operate another two services per week; and
• Jetstar will operate six weekly return services each week between Darwin and
Melbourne from 1 May, increasing to a daily service from 1 July.
“Darwin is an important market for the Qantas Group and these changes reflect our
commitment to providing a sustainable service and better meeting the needs of
passengers travelling on these routes,” Mr Borghetti said.
That really bugs me. There is no way on this planet that I will pay to travel with that mob. Public transport in Africa is more comfortable, and better class of passenger.
They maybe oK for a qick sydney melbourne or the like but no way will I sit for 4 hrs. Thats my choice.
My biggest fear is that they start flights between brisbane/Sydney and Darwin
and the company I work for will book us with this mob.
They maybe oK for a qick sydney melbourne or the like but no way will I sit for 4 hrs. Thats my choice.
My biggest fear is that they start flights between brisbane/Sydney and Darwin
and the company I work for will book us with this mob.
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sadly thats the QF grand plan, QF will only fly International, and only then on the routes that they have protected, eg SYD/LAX every other QF flight will be J*
i cant wait for Ozjet to get a good network. there is no way im giving up my Business class to be forced onto a 1 star airline... whenever possible, Vb is the way. when i fly i like to be treated like a person, not cattle branded with a $ sign. and im willing to pay the premium for the legroom, free drinks, and sadly lacking improved over economy, service on QF Business class
i cant wait for Ozjet to get a good network. there is no way im giving up my Business class to be forced onto a 1 star airline... whenever possible, Vb is the way. when i fly i like to be treated like a person, not cattle branded with a $ sign. and im willing to pay the premium for the legroom, free drinks, and sadly lacking improved over economy, service on QF Business class
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Public transport in Africa is more comfortable, and better class of passenger.
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will operate six weekly return services each week between Darwin and Melbourne
Or is it: every six weeks they will operate a return flight?
Not much of a service either way, in my HO. Edited to correct spacing
Seriously, who wrote that drivel? Or, as your average airline pilot would say, "Who wrote that dribble?"
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****su Tonka,
I do stand to be corrected on this but I thought I read somewhere that DJ were pulling out of ML-DN also due to low yield.
They will continue ADL-DN and BN-DN, but ML- DN was to get the axe.
If this is to be the case then the punter has no option than to fly with the one star airline. Sought of makes sense why QF would pull out and offer the "el cheapo" option. What's the bet the cost is no different though!
I do stand to be corrected on this but I thought I read somewhere that DJ were pulling out of ML-DN also due to low yield.
They will continue ADL-DN and BN-DN, but ML- DN was to get the axe.
If this is to be the case then the punter has no option than to fly with the one star airline. Sought of makes sense why QF would pull out and offer the "el cheapo" option. What's the bet the cost is no different though!
It might be a win for Virgin but its a total loss for locals flying out of Darwin.
I'm too tall and... 'ahem'... broad to fit in a standard QF economy seat for any length of time; and I'm not the only local in that class. (even my teenage sons are taller than me now)
Any destination over 2 hours away and I'm looking for business class unless they can guarantee row 4 or an overwing exit.
If mainline domestic is replaced by low cost cattle class, then I'll have to be driving within the Territory for business and looking to take my holidays overseas. (Its only an extra 10 hours travelling time to drive to the Alice rather than fly)
I'm too tall and... 'ahem'... broad to fit in a standard QF economy seat for any length of time; and I'm not the only local in that class. (even my teenage sons are taller than me now)
Any destination over 2 hours away and I'm looking for business class unless they can guarantee row 4 or an overwing exit.
If mainline domestic is replaced by low cost cattle class, then I'll have to be driving within the Territory for business and looking to take my holidays overseas. (Its only an extra 10 hours travelling time to drive to the Alice rather than fly)
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****su Tonka,
I do stand to be corrected on this but I thought I read somewhere that DJ were pulling out of ML-DN also due to low yield.
They will continue ADL-DN and BN-DN, but ML- DN was to get the axe.
If this is to be the case then the punter has no option than to fly with the one star airline. Sought of makes sense why QF would pull out and offer the "el cheapo" option. What's the bet the cost is no different though!
I do stand to be corrected on this but I thought I read somewhere that DJ were pulling out of ML-DN also due to low yield.
They will continue ADL-DN and BN-DN, but ML- DN was to get the axe.
If this is to be the case then the punter has no option than to fly with the one star airline. Sought of makes sense why QF would pull out and offer the "el cheapo" option. What's the bet the cost is no different though!
Silly Old Git
Yep cooda its no good fer us....erm powerfully built types
Its the Bitumen Boeing for us mate
By the way...missus tin has been watching kwanas seat prices to MEL as we head towards April school hols.They have had at least three rises in the past week.
I guess its what we deserve for voting in a Labour government
Its the Bitumen Boeing for us mate
By the way...missus tin has been watching kwanas seat prices to MEL as we head towards April school hols.They have had at least three rises in the past week.
I guess its what we deserve for voting in a Labour government
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Looking at the Jay Queue website I note that the ADL/DRW flight is JQ936 with timings 1445/1820 and returns as JQ937 DRW/ADL 1850/2225.
I'm not being pessimistic here, just playing Devil's Advocate: What happens if they get a fail to board pax in ADL or someone who becomes too intoxicated to travel after appearing sober at check-in and they have to offload the pax plus their baggage?
Do they put the bagtag bingo stubs on the palette in the A320 to be used with a scanner for easy location of the bag to be offloaded or do they do it the old fashioned way ie dragging all the bags out of the palettes, after having to unload the said palettes from the A320 first that is?
Say you're looking at 30 minute delay for the above exercise leaving ADL and there's no way you can make a 30 minute turnaround any quicker as the time frame is slashed to the bone to start with, your timings are delayed on the return leg DRW/ADL to 1920/2255 and you're sailing dangerously close to the wind with a curfew in ADL of 2300.
What about when you need to hold in DRW due wx? The result is a further delay so next thing you know you're due in ADL post 2300 and unless it's a medical emergency I really doubt you'd get any dispensation to land late so what happens? Do Jay Queue put everyone in hotels or will they just make them sleep at the airport while they wait a mere 7 hours to be able to take off thereby arriving in ADL after 0600?
Oops, can't do that either as crew would be out of duty hours (I'm assuming that the same crew operate both forward and return legs). So pax are looking at a minimum 12 hour delay so the crew can have their rest which I guess will have to be on the floor of the terminal also if there's no hotel rooms to be found.
It's going to be a real baptism of fire for Jay Queue particular as they commence their services to DRW in the middle of the dry season when trying to get one hotel room can be difficult never mind 50!
The NT News is going to love it, move over cane toads and crocodiles you are about to be gazumped by new headings such as "Jetstar passengers terrifying ordeal in Darwin".........blah blah blah...... "passengers forced to sleep on floor".
What is Jay Queue's policy if they go u/s? Do they transfer them to a Qantas flight or will pax just have to wait until the original a/c is operational again?
I'm not being pessimistic here, just playing Devil's Advocate: What happens if they get a fail to board pax in ADL or someone who becomes too intoxicated to travel after appearing sober at check-in and they have to offload the pax plus their baggage?
Do they put the bagtag bingo stubs on the palette in the A320 to be used with a scanner for easy location of the bag to be offloaded or do they do it the old fashioned way ie dragging all the bags out of the palettes, after having to unload the said palettes from the A320 first that is?
Say you're looking at 30 minute delay for the above exercise leaving ADL and there's no way you can make a 30 minute turnaround any quicker as the time frame is slashed to the bone to start with, your timings are delayed on the return leg DRW/ADL to 1920/2255 and you're sailing dangerously close to the wind with a curfew in ADL of 2300.
What about when you need to hold in DRW due wx? The result is a further delay so next thing you know you're due in ADL post 2300 and unless it's a medical emergency I really doubt you'd get any dispensation to land late so what happens? Do Jay Queue put everyone in hotels or will they just make them sleep at the airport while they wait a mere 7 hours to be able to take off thereby arriving in ADL after 0600?
Oops, can't do that either as crew would be out of duty hours (I'm assuming that the same crew operate both forward and return legs). So pax are looking at a minimum 12 hour delay so the crew can have their rest which I guess will have to be on the floor of the terminal also if there's no hotel rooms to be found.
It's going to be a real baptism of fire for Jay Queue particular as they commence their services to DRW in the middle of the dry season when trying to get one hotel room can be difficult never mind 50!
The NT News is going to love it, move over cane toads and crocodiles you are about to be gazumped by new headings such as "Jetstar passengers terrifying ordeal in Darwin".........blah blah blah...... "passengers forced to sleep on floor".
What is Jay Queue's policy if they go u/s? Do they transfer them to a Qantas flight or will pax just have to wait until the original a/c is operational again?
Silly Old Git
Um, Tin, I'm a little perplexed. What's the connection with voting Labour and the arrival of Jet*?
If for whatever agenda some silly bloody women have their way and a certain mine spits the dummy, there may be not much need for increased services to the top end.
tin
I've known QF prices to change while the booking agent's looking at the screen.
Also known it to work the other way.
Lady Cooda was off to Sinney and we debated sending Cooda Kid 3 with her.
Cost of her advance ticket was around $600.
Four days from departure we were quoted $1100 for CK3
Two days out the quote was $980
Next day we rang to make the booking and got it for $600.
Clarry
I thought Madam Clare was responsible for everything that happens in the NT (or am I spending too much time reading the NT News
)
I've known QF prices to change while the booking agent's looking at the screen.
Also known it to work the other way.
Lady Cooda was off to Sinney and we debated sending Cooda Kid 3 with her.
Cost of her advance ticket was around $600.
Four days from departure we were quoted $1100 for CK3
Two days out the quote was $980
Next day we rang to make the booking and got it for $600.
Clarry
I thought Madam Clare was responsible for everything that happens in the NT (or am I spending too much time reading the NT News
)