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Old 22nd Feb 2006, 01:22
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Qantas, Outsource the CEO.

Michael Pascoe writing in todays Crikey newsletter suggests Qantas could save heaps by outsourcing the CEO job to Asia.

His figures suggest Geoff gets more than the CEO's of Singapore, Cathay and British Airways let alone the other carriers around the region.

They could source Geoff's job out to a clever oriental businessman and save heaps. Hope the Board thinks of it too Michael.
 
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why not close the office down ?

surely it is a duplicate role, when you also have a chairperson, fleet managers, board and financial controller.

what IS the job description ?
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with an asian CEO, they might even get a fair go at running their 1 star asia airline!
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I am never sure what credentials one is supposed to have to be CEO of an international carrier - however I believe Mr Dixon was a political journalist back in the 1970's. I worked overseas with a woman who had worked with him in Canberra as a journo, and even she cannot believe how he made the quantum leap to his current role.

No doubt he would have all the right connections even if he didn't have the business background or experience - and he could be his own "spin doctor".

Quite a frightening concept really - it seems that the job has already been outsourced!
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Old 22nd Feb 2006, 09:49
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Outsource it? Bugger that. I'll do it for 25% of what Dixon's whole package is worth- and I'm already employed by QF! I'm tertiary qualified, have experience in business (director of a company), have experience in management (not QF), have experience in project management (about six on the go at the moment) and have a bit of an idea as to how to manage people- or so my subordinates say when I'm buying them beers!

Give it to me and I've INSTANTLY made the QF bottom line look better to the tune of $3 Million. That HAS to be worth a bonus straight up! 50% of the savings I reckon!
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Now there's a novel idea Keg... put somebody into the job who has real experience!

Nah... far too much logic for this industry, so it'll never happen.
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Old 22nd Feb 2006, 12:25
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Keg, I don't have your qualifications so i'll have to put a bid in for 15%.
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Keg my boy, are you so disengaged that you're prepared to make such treasonous posts?

You're starting not to sound like a team member who is focused on making a commitment to core initiatives to facilitate positive outcomes with respect to key stakeholders and pursuing flexible responses in an extraordinarily difficult operating environment with multiple external challenges going forward.

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Old 22nd Feb 2006, 13:19
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Not disengaged at all. What I'm seeing is the synergies that can arise when a workforce is networked to ensure optimal capability and combines with a flattened decision making matrix. Further, the efficiencies that come from engaging with the custodians of the organisational sub cultures mean that we can reach optimal performance quickly and achieve above average scores in all key performance indicators. All this for 1/4 of the cost of the current bloke.

Actually, I'm pretty well engaged at the moment. I'm loving what I'm doing and having a blast. I'm teamed up with a great bloke and we're just having a great time jumping through whatever hoops they put in front of us. I'll be even happier in a couple of months. Of course, note that it's all about 'me'!

Seriously though. How hard is it to tell people to slash and burn? Any chump can strip a business bare and outsource the lot. The real skill is in the 'building' of a business, not selling it all off!
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Who'll be chief pilot Keg?
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Pretenders the lot of you! Id like to see ya's preform like Mr Dixon did on the SUnday program I thoght it was a sterling effort.
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Sunfish is going to be chief pilot. After all I can fly a Cessna so a 747 couldn't possibly be hard right?
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Old 22nd Feb 2006, 21:18
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Sorry Sunfish, but I'm not having a Victorian as my Chief Pilot. How would it ensure that Qantas maintains its Sydney centric mode of operation?

However, if you'd be prepared to denounce all other football teams and follow the Sydney Swans then I may consider your application.

ROFL @ Mr Qantas. Mr Dixon had want to have performed well....it was a doddle of an interview with no toughies at all.
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Interesting article, if only we could make it happen!
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Vote 1. Sunfish for Dicko's job.
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While thus thread remains in its current spirit I will let it run.

Be warned however that any future derogitory references to any individual or group will result in the deletion of the thread instantly...and banning of the miscreant involved.

We all like to poke a little fun but it's been getting well out of hand around here of late.


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Old 24th Feb 2006, 07:53
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It seems to me that if Pilots, Flight Attendant, Ground Crew, Admin people etc are employed on a fixed contract with fixed rate of pay so should the CEO and all other managers. Granted their salary would be a little higher than the janitor or pilots but less than what they currently receive. Come the end of year if the company makes a profit then any bonus paid to them should be the same as that paid to everybody else, and the real bonus is that they keep their job for another year. This would cut costs dramatically. Some one might say that nobody would then want the job, but that is aviation and somebody always wants the job (just look at whats going on around us).

The days of corporate fat cats should be over. The other idea would be to link all pay rises and bonuses to that of the top executives so everybody wins, but the company and shareholder loses.

Can the share holders request such a management type change at the AGM?
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Old 24th Feb 2006, 17:42
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Good thought Engine out.

I understand that Gerry Harvey pays himself about AUD200K, and takes shares as an annual bonus if the business performs. Perhaps more CEO's should take a leaf from him???
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Old 24th Feb 2006, 21:06
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If anyone wants to read Pascoe's original piece it can be found on crikey.com. au under the business section.

While tongue in cheek it has some merit particulary if you are an engineer whose job is under threat of outsourcing.

Legitimate public discussion by Pascoe.
 


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