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Old 29th Jan 2006, 09:52
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Qantas B707

In the Aviation History & Nostalgia Forum there is a thread about Qantas having acquired a Boeing 707-138 in the UK and preparing to ferry back to Australia.

Reputedly the registration VH-XBA has been allocated.

Anyone have any details? Is this aircraft going to the Qantas Founders Museum in Longreach?
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Only info' I know of, is that the 707 you're reffering to is currently at Southend Airport. In the marks of the previous owner, the Saudi Government with the reg' HZ-123.
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Woomera,

HZ-123 is the old VH-EBA, #29 off the production line which first flew 20/3/1959. It left Qantas service in 1967 and went to Pacific Western Airlines. It has been with several operators, but ending up with the Royal Saudi Air Force from September 1987. It has been stored at Southend UK from 1999. It is proposed to be flown to Australia to be placed at Longreach. VH-XBA is the allocated registration. Hope that helps.
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I knew it was ex Qantas. Interesting it's going to Longreach. Wonder where they'll park that? No work yet done on a parking area near the museum - not sure they have the space.
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You'll all get the shock of your lives when it turns up in Jet* colours!!!
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Isn't that one of the 707's they went to PX then back to an OO- registration (Belgium?)
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I visited the museum in Longreach last July. They are having problems with water (rain) getting in VH-EBQ and the museum staff were talking about trying to raise money for a giant waterproof sail to go over the plane. Sounds like they might need two waterproof sails.
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The B707's that went to Pixie were ex-QF 338c's
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Quite right Hanoi.-338C's,P2-ANA ex VH-EAB,and P2-ANB ex VH-EAA,sold on to TRATCO in Belgium in 1985
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This place is a mine of information. Thanks.
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This may sound stupid, but why not keep the plane flying once it's arrived in Australia? Qantas could use it on the occassional RPT run or at least for special charters.

I'm sure it would stir up a bit of interest from the passengers being able to fly in such a beautiful aircraft.

It seems such a shame to see airworthy aircraft sitting in a muesum gathering dust.

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Tiger 77, how do you propose QF satisfy the spares inventory, maintenance licencing, flight & cabin crew check & training requirements and not to mention Stage 3 ICAO Noise Compliance of an aircraft that has not been operated by QF for some 40 years?

I think replacating an entire "operations" system for just 1 aircraft is simply not on the cards.

There simply isn't enough cottonwool available to stuff in your ears to make a -138 Stage 3 Compliant

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Rain getting in? In Longreach?!

Info on the 707:

http://www.707.adastron.com/ (linked from the QFM site).

I live in the UK and was interested in lending an amateur hand to help get it going. I emailed the address on the QFM site a few weeks ago. No-one's even bothered to reply. Doesn't do their PR effort many favours if they don't even answer emails.
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Animal et al. The aircraft in question is a series 138 powered by Conways. I suspect it will need numerous exemptions to pollution legislation just to get to Australia and Longreach.

Minimbah. Rain? In Longreach? Been a long time since it's even been a humid day in Longreach, let alone rain!

Gaunty - Chucky. I feel another heavy night at the Welcome Home Hotel in Longreach may not be far off?? A replay of the day the 742 arrived perhaps??

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Originally Posted by Tiger 77
This may sound stupid, but why not keep the plane flying once it's arrived in Australia? Qantas could use it on the occassional RPT run or at least for special charters.

Tiger.
No need to. If ever they need a good looking 707 for PR purposes, JT turns up in his! Lots cheaper to do it that way!

I wonder if JT will take OJA off QFs hands when it comes time to retire it!
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Haha retire a 400?! Travolta will be dead by the time that happens if Qf’s current form of holding on to out of date inefficient aircraft like the classic and refusing to buy newer more efficient a/c like the 777 is anything to go by! I mean really what do they know about the 777 that every other airline in the world doesn’t? Even Air NZ has purchased some, that is just embarrassing!
BTW wasn't OJB the first 400 to be delivered, would that then be the first one to go?
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OJA was first. It was delivered via that non-stop flight from LHR.
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Old 30th Jan 2006, 23:27
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Are you sure about the Conways - I thought they were P&Ws (Conways only on the -400 series)?
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Very observant Max. Go to the head of the class!!

B707-120 series: Four 75.6 kN (17,000 lbf) Pratt & Whitney JT3D-1 turbofans.

But the JT3D's would still be restricted by pollution legislation, although American actor John Travolta owns, and is qualified to fly, an ex-Qantas 707-138, registration N707JT.

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Old 31st Jan 2006, 02:05
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Oz Jet may be interested in buying it.
 


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