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Old 19th Jan 2006, 21:50
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I share your frustration with darth Dixon and those who believe we should be flexible in our negotiations when that only serves to encourage the company to roger us all the more.

Our union (faaa) is full of appeasment and surrender monkeys and I have to ask as to their motives.

the faaa has told us that the vote they conducted on the JFK shuttle was an overwhelming yes...Interesting when everyone I have asked voted NO

No one can negotiate from a position of weakness and that is certainly our position as with anyone else who believes the company has anything else but their bonus's on their mind..
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Old 22nd Jan 2006, 17:52
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For those supporters of government protection of Qantas routes, can I ask a question or two?

Do you see any connection between government protection and continued unfettered managerial attacks on QF employee wages and conditions? I do, but it might just be me.
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Old 22nd Jan 2006, 18:22
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The connection is not difficult to make given that the airline is alleged to have made a significat contribution in both manpower and money to the developmenet of the new "Work Choices" legislation.

Darth Dixon as you creatively refer to him has become an expert at holwing the airline down claiming bird flu, sars, 9/11, the ashes tour and anything else that he can think of as a reason for gouging the conditions and wages of the employees.

The only wages that never go down are his and those of his henchmen.
Stabd by for an announcement of more outsourcing in Feb/March and watch him blame it on the inflexibility of the unions.

Must be tough trying to live on 3.2 million a year Darth.
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Old 22nd Jan 2006, 20:25
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Your right about Darth ..the only thing he is concerned with is maximizing his bonus and payout.

He cries foul if the wind changes direction and will complain to a fence post if he thinks it is listening but I think you are being a bit generous with 3.2 million.I think the true figure is much higher...

If only the unions could think smart for a week or two and get together and act as a group ...but that will never happen
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Old 23rd Jan 2006, 19:19
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Now you have got me interested?

I'd pay money to see that individual get his comeupance and the harder the better.

Let's hear what you have in mind...........

Perhaps the ONLY thing that has a chance of uniting the unions is the prospect of finishing off his ignominious career at the airline.

I'd be checking the silverware BEFORE any of them left the building.
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Old 23rd Jan 2006, 21:22
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Just imagine if all the QF unions got together and instead of arguing about what they want individually decided to tell Darth that they will not stand for any more.

If Doomsday Dixon continues with his anti Australian employment plans while feathering his own nest then they will shut the airline down. It would be difficult but not impossible for management to get around one union but to get around all of them at the same time would be impossible.

Dixon however, is an expert at divide and conquer and I’m sure he has enough union officials in his pocket or enough people to create dissent within the unions to prevent this from happening.

There has to be a balance in industrial action on both sides but at the moment Darth has carte blanche to do whatever he wants and the unions are completely compliant and will be steamrolled.

If he continues with his concept of aircraft maintenance in China then all QF unions should say NO but the unions in QF cannot even agree within their own ranks as to the correct strategy let alone a collective approach to Dixon and his chicken little scare tactics

Perhaps a collective advertising campaign on the billboards out side and around the jet base would get his attention for a start
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Old 24th Jan 2006, 00:06
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Not only the unions should say NO to sending work overseas, the government should too.

If work goes overseas the government loses out by...
- not receiving taxes from salary/wages lost;
- having to pay out the dole to those people who have lost their jobs.
A substantial amount of money.

Surely if the government is prepared to sacrifice that amount of money it would appear that at least part of these funds could be used as a subsidy (as happens in other countries) or protection schemes could be arranged for such things as the Australia-USA route to prevent job losses (as happens in other countries). Am I being too simplistic or do the buzzwords "level playing field" come out to play here?

John Singleton, in his book Rip Van Australia, coined a phrase "The government orta syndrome". "The government orta do this" or "the government orta do that". He's against government interference in business and so am I, but as with all blanket statements/policies there is sometimes a need to be pragmatic... and the government SHOULD/MUST do something about sending jobs overseas.
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Old 24th Jan 2006, 01:24
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Thumbs down idiology comes first

with the current government. they dont really give a toss about qf. the only thing they are worried is that as an aussie icon it does not go down well with the public. since the dictators in singapore couldn't care less about hanging the aussie "drugrunner" it is believed JH isn't too pleased. having said that dame margret is also said to be on of JH favourite persons. she "excelled" in her role as an excecutive on the australian business council and contributed a lot to the new industrial relations changes.
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Old 24th Jan 2006, 02:49
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I was on the ridiculous misunderstanding that the government which is elected by the people is meant to represent the people and have those people’s interests at heart…

Stupid me…

Which person on the QF board or government has the interest of the Chinese economy on their mind…I wonder..
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