CASA Cost Recovery - The Ramifications
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Re: CASA Cost Recovery - The Ramifications
Whilst there are difficulties arising from CASA’s current funding model, an abrupt
change in fees and charges could create uncertainty; therefore delaying investment
and resulting in a net loss to air transport consumers.
Rather than repricing all its services overnight, CASA should endeavour to manage
the transition from current funding arrangements to full cost recovery over a
number of years, in order to allow industry participants to make any necessary
adjustments. This transition process should be supported by a program of industry
consultation, so that participants are aware of the future program of changes that
will affect them.
The cost recovery target is increasing from 2006 to 2009, and individual charges
should be phased also. There would be administrative advantages in increasing the
range of CASA’s fees from 1 January 2006, and then phasing increases in fees
between 2006 and 2009.
change in fees and charges could create uncertainty; therefore delaying investment
and resulting in a net loss to air transport consumers.
Rather than repricing all its services overnight, CASA should endeavour to manage
the transition from current funding arrangements to full cost recovery over a
number of years, in order to allow industry participants to make any necessary
adjustments. This transition process should be supported by a program of industry
consultation, so that participants are aware of the future program of changes that
will affect them.
The cost recovery target is increasing from 2006 to 2009, and individual charges
should be phased also. There would be administrative advantages in increasing the
range of CASA’s fees from 1 January 2006, and then phasing increases in fees
between 2006 and 2009.
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Sent a tailwheel endorsement form in to CASA last week with a cheque for $130....
Today, our local CASA folks called to say they would be sending the cheque back to me, as the fee only applied if it was a CASA employee who did the Log Book Endrosement (Sticky Label) If it is done by a CFI or testing officer as they usually are, and the LBE form sent completed to CASA, there is no charge. Apparently because if a CASA person does it, they then have to check all stuff like the qualifications and currency of the person recommending the candidate for endorsement etc and that is what takes time.
Thank god the field offices are doing this stuff again, it seems the bods at Canberra have realised they can't cope with that and all the security stuff and are letting the local folks do what they have always done and have years of experience in rather than being relegated to an "Intelligent Mailbox"!
So, if anyone has paid the $130 to a CFI or testing officer for the sticky label you should be able to get it back.
That is todays interpretation, anyway!
Today, our local CASA folks called to say they would be sending the cheque back to me, as the fee only applied if it was a CASA employee who did the Log Book Endrosement (Sticky Label) If it is done by a CFI or testing officer as they usually are, and the LBE form sent completed to CASA, there is no charge. Apparently because if a CASA person does it, they then have to check all stuff like the qualifications and currency of the person recommending the candidate for endorsement etc and that is what takes time.
Thank god the field offices are doing this stuff again, it seems the bods at Canberra have realised they can't cope with that and all the security stuff and are letting the local folks do what they have always done and have years of experience in rather than being relegated to an "Intelligent Mailbox"!
So, if anyone has paid the $130 to a CFI or testing officer for the sticky label you should be able to get it back.
That is todays interpretation, anyway!
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User pays
Seems to me that the user pays and pays and pays...... and well we can't go to someone else who might offer a better price, CASA is in a monopoly position and we have no options but to pay ridiculous prices. After all we have to renew our medical every year, not to mention the other charges they have bought in
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Meanwhile, Casa employees seek 8% pay increase over 12 months,( see Australian today)can not send me my Command IFR paper work done in November 2005 as they are behind in work, and stif us with an effective hourly rate of $260 to do a medical renewal. Hallo Mr Truss and Byron soon you won't have any one to pay your inflated fees as the lights in GA go completely OUT. OVER and OUT to you guys. HALLOOOOOOOOOO any one home?
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Reference the aviation medical charges.
Here we have a database of some 30,000 comprehensive medical records of a particularly group, admittedly mainly male but with an increasing female component, going back some 40-50 years or more which increases the database size considerably.
Surely that comprehensive series of medical information has to be of vital interest and use to the academia, medical profession and government analysis to gather an accurate picture of medical problems, etc, which should be used in the provision of medical personell, hospitals, treatments and pharmaceutical research?
That being the case, then perhaps the cost of maintaining and sharing of this database should be charged to, and shared by universities, health departments, other government departments, etc?
Going one step further; if CASA is to be run on a comercial basis then perhaps our records can be sold, rented or leased to the major pharmaceutical companies which would only be to delighted to get access to such long term valuable information?
Before the civil libertarians spout their mantra perhaps they sneed put their brain in gear first and recognise properly managed databases will strip identification from the records protecting individuals.
Several advantages spring to mind apart from the cost being borne where it should be, the records enable greater and more accurate research and medical treatments. The result of this could well be lower medical cost to goverment and pilots.
DK
Here we have a database of some 30,000 comprehensive medical records of a particularly group, admittedly mainly male but with an increasing female component, going back some 40-50 years or more which increases the database size considerably.
Surely that comprehensive series of medical information has to be of vital interest and use to the academia, medical profession and government analysis to gather an accurate picture of medical problems, etc, which should be used in the provision of medical personell, hospitals, treatments and pharmaceutical research?
That being the case, then perhaps the cost of maintaining and sharing of this database should be charged to, and shared by universities, health departments, other government departments, etc?
Going one step further; if CASA is to be run on a comercial basis then perhaps our records can be sold, rented or leased to the major pharmaceutical companies which would only be to delighted to get access to such long term valuable information?
Before the civil libertarians spout their mantra perhaps they sneed put their brain in gear first and recognise properly managed databases will strip identification from the records protecting individuals.
Several advantages spring to mind apart from the cost being borne where it should be, the records enable greater and more accurate research and medical treatments. The result of this could well be lower medical cost to goverment and pilots.
DK
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Credibility??
One of the major things that should be considered is the effect on the credibility of the organisation that is "recovering the cost".
It is not unusual in the advertising world, to give favourable coverage in the text of a publication to those who advertise in it. Sometimes you can even write it yourself, if you are advertising.
Now let's have a look at "flight Safety Australia"
There is an article in there about a fully loaded chieftain that was cruising just below the freezing level, in cloud, when an engine mis-behaved. So the pilot climbed through cloud and through the freeezing level to 9000 feet. He shut down the engine, and set the power on the remaining engine to 38 inches and 2400 rpm.????
It would not maintain altitude(He had not used full power)
He had trouble keeping the aeroplane under control, and appeared to be in a spiral dive at one point. He attributes this to faulty instruments, and commented "I looked at the turn co-ordinator, which confused me even more. I had never seen such an ancient one before"
The ATSB report did not find any problem with the instruments.
This was written up in the section "the right stuff", under the heading "Maximum performance."
This company advertises in "Flight Safety Australia" magazine.
It is not unusual in the advertising world, to give favourable coverage in the text of a publication to those who advertise in it. Sometimes you can even write it yourself, if you are advertising.
Now let's have a look at "flight Safety Australia"
There is an article in there about a fully loaded chieftain that was cruising just below the freezing level, in cloud, when an engine mis-behaved. So the pilot climbed through cloud and through the freeezing level to 9000 feet. He shut down the engine, and set the power on the remaining engine to 38 inches and 2400 rpm.????
It would not maintain altitude(He had not used full power)
He had trouble keeping the aeroplane under control, and appeared to be in a spiral dive at one point. He attributes this to faulty instruments, and commented "I looked at the turn co-ordinator, which confused me even more. I had never seen such an ancient one before"
The ATSB report did not find any problem with the instruments.
This was written up in the section "the right stuff", under the heading "Maximum performance."
This company advertises in "Flight Safety Australia" magazine.
Last edited by bushy; 22nd Jan 2006 at 01:42.
