ALAEA impotence (merged)
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ALAEA impotence (merged)
it's now been about a month since Geoff Dixon has flagged that Heavy Maint maybe outsourced and the ALAEA have still not shown their faces to let the membership know what they are doing about the threat.Valve for money,i don't think so.They get $546 a yr from me to represent my interests and they have not even put out a memo to let us know what they are doing about it.
Roll on June,it will be make or break for us all if these fools get back in.
Roll on June,it will be make or break for us all if these fools get back in.
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I believe their advice is to take the money and run, or move to Brisbane and wait to get sold off up there as well.
Ahh.. there's nothing like strong leadership in a crisis.
In fact the one of the Heavy Maintenance reps took a package and the other wanted to.
It is time for a change.
Ahh.. there's nothing like strong leadership in a crisis.
In fact the one of the Heavy Maintenance reps took a package and the other wanted to.
It is time for a change.
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Without the gidance and leadership of our senior alaea officials much of the work that has been kept in Australia at the joint alaea-forestaff facilaty at Avalon would be off shore by now. We have alot to thank the experienced staff in Bexley for and there understanding of the industry as a whole.
What do you expect the alaea to say about the hm redundancies. It looks like more than enough staff were happy to accept them and the big payouts that go with em. Sys 4 you seem to be angry evey time you belt drible into your salary sacraficed keyboard. Oh thats right the salary sacrafice that your asociation won for you!
What do you expect the alaea to say about the hm redundancies. It looks like more than enough staff were happy to accept them and the big payouts that go with em. Sys 4 you seem to be angry evey time you belt drible into your salary sacraficed keyboard. Oh thats right the salary sacrafice that your asociation won for you!
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Firstly,that's my wage that pays for the laptop.
Secondly Qantas would be economical irresponsible to it's share holders if they didn't offer salary sacrifice to it's employees due to payroll tax,and finally i expect them to say something and do something about what GD has said about outsourcing of HM,that is what they are payed for.A SERVICE.
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Secondly Qantas would be economical irresponsible to it's share holders if they didn't offer salary sacrifice to it's employees due to payroll tax,and finally i expect them to say something and do something about what GD has said about outsourcing of HM,that is what they are payed for.A SERVICE.
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Mr. QANTAS
Just read your post: Forestaff,gidance,evey,sacraficed,sacrafice and asociation please use a spell checker before your dribble comes out, ALAEA stands for "we are an extension of Qantas" as they do not seem to stand up for the people that pay the dues.
The best part is that they(Qantas) poach the rank and file members and give jobs to the ones that seem to have some brains then turn them against the members that had supported them.
Just read your post: Forestaff,gidance,evey,sacraficed,sacrafice and asociation please use a spell checker before your dribble comes out, ALAEA stands for "we are an extension of Qantas" as they do not seem to stand up for the people that pay the dues.
The best part is that they(Qantas) poach the rank and file members and give jobs to the ones that seem to have some brains then turn them against the members that had supported them.
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don't forget guys,nexted June the elections are on for the nexted Exec Committee.
Just about everyone you talk too,in Heavy in Syd and Servicing want these guys out.
Maintain the rage because their time is coming to an end,also sounds like Avalon want them gone as well
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Just about everyone you talk too,in Heavy in Syd and Servicing want these guys out.
Maintain the rage because their time is coming to an end,also sounds like Avalon want them gone as well
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Be on your guard for an eleventh hour twist, doubt whether these guys will go down without one final sell out.
Their future careers depend on it, Qantas won't be looking forward to taking on the new kid on the block, they have had it too easy up 'til now.
Their future careers depend on it, Qantas won't be looking forward to taking on the new kid on the block, they have had it too easy up 'til now.
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Untill some of the disgruntled qf guys and girls are ready to put their hands up for alaea positions, its always going to be the same..hate to say it, you wont make a difference, to many old boys and *******caught in their ways....start looking after yourself..
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Perhaps some of the learned members of this group such as "sys 4" may like to inform us lesser lights as to how they would change the organisation that they seem hell bent on damning.
That way those of us that remain on the fringes and uncertain which way to turn could examine your proposals and compare them to what we have been experiencing so far.
I for one would be interested in seeing if those you suggest can do a better job on my behalf actually have something that might make me consider voting at all let alone for anyone in particular.
We only ever seem to hear, or read for that matter, from those who have a particular point of view but really, if ever is that view supported by reasoned arguement or discussion and it MAY be helpful to hear what you have in mind before I make my mind up one way or another.
That way those of us that remain on the fringes and uncertain which way to turn could examine your proposals and compare them to what we have been experiencing so far.
I for one would be interested in seeing if those you suggest can do a better job on my behalf actually have something that might make me consider voting at all let alone for anyone in particular.
We only ever seem to hear, or read for that matter, from those who have a particular point of view but really, if ever is that view supported by reasoned arguement or discussion and it MAY be helpful to hear what you have in mind before I make my mind up one way or another.
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Sorry NoSAR, but we're behind closed doors where sys 4 is concerned!!! 
Sadly he/she won't be able to espouse his/her work ethic in this thread or forum.
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Sadly he/she won't be able to espouse his/her work ethic in this thread or forum.
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Re: ALAEA impotence
Woomera, what the **** does that mean?
Has SYS 4 been bumped from the forum or something?
It is not wise to use profanities in comments to W
Has SYS 4 been bumped from the forum or something?
It is not wise to use profanities in comments to W
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Re: ALAEA impotence
Have been watching this thread and am involved in a part of this upsetting movement of job loses and the new year is here, sure hope it is not going to be too hard on us.
Not too sure the ALAEA is doing us any good at all but hear rumors of another union about to appear on the scene, hope it is usefull.
Not too sure the ALAEA is doing us any good at all but hear rumors of another union about to appear on the scene, hope it is usefull.
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Re: ALAEA impotence
Sacking the industrial manager CR would be the first change made. It earns over 100K a year and is nothing more than an industrial burden. Someone with a legal background needs to be employed as the manager and negotiator for the benefit of the members. Other changes are currently in the pipeline by the "takeover" group and the choices will most certainly be made public prior to your choice for the new Executive.
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Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what the success rate has been from the ALAEA industrial staff in any disputes or commission hearings in the past 2 yrs?
Have they successfully challenged or won aything?
Have they successfully challenged or won aything?
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If you questioning the sucess rate of the alaea industrial staff you must have your head in the sand for the last 2 years 5B. I asume you still have a job ****)++and if that is the gauge that we using to measure the sucess rate then I think you'll find that Chris and his team are doing a remarkable job in what must be classed as the most trying times in aviaton history. As for the goat ******* idea of replacing the manager with a legal proffessional you must be kidding. CR has been a loyal and sucessful combatent for all lames over a long period of time and you and your Mexican cronies will never replace him with a green ass lawyer who knows nothing about our industry. Good luck and good rittens if that is the only old chestnut you wheel out when the election comes around. Stabilety is paramount in these troubled times and only a proven and expereinced leadership group can guide the lames through the changes we all face.
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