Wot's happening at Air Nauru?
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BPA you're an angry fella. Again very few correct facts in your statement but I defend your right to an opinion no matter how incorrect. I hope you're not an old bush pilots boy as I thought they weren't so bitter. I see at least 6 errors in your statements and don't know why you are wishing 120+ employees onto the street and a whole country to oblivion
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BPA,
You were absolutely right in some of those statements......a coupla decades ago!!! Air Nauru, even with the 734, just broke even with the two services from Australia to Nauru with all else as is......Had it been one service from Australia per week, it would've made a nice little profit.
You were absolutely right in some of those statements......a coupla decades ago!!! Air Nauru, even with the 734, just broke even with the two services from Australia to Nauru with all else as is......Had it been one service from Australia per week, it would've made a nice little profit.
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Tipsy, tell GG to check her email, thanks. Blue eagle i bet you left ON back then because you saw the airline folding didnt you? Well you were right, but about 20 some years too early.
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coco
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Captain Moonlight, I wish Air Nauru all the best for the future. Keep on Flying.
As you said, keep the vultures at bay so the Phoenix can rise....
D6
As you said, keep the vultures at bay so the Phoenix can rise....
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Hi CoCo,
In those days it was the B737-200 and a couple of B727s We would often fly to Hong Kong from Nauru with no more than six or seven fare paying pax and the fact that all flights had to start and stop in Nauru with no code share or access to other carriers like Air Pacific or Polynesian meant that commercially they didn't stand a chance. The only time we flew anywhere near full was around Christmas time. The Nauru manager in Saipan was really chuffed to be able to tell the President when he visited that the new service was selling like hot cakes, when the President got back to Nauru he ordered the Saipan office to close!
It was those sort of things that made me realise I didn't really have a future there and I doubt if I would have survived the redundancies in about 1983.
Lovely people, great routes etc. but just not practical from a career point of view.
Best of luck with your new venture.
In those days it was the B737-200 and a couple of B727s We would often fly to Hong Kong from Nauru with no more than six or seven fare paying pax and the fact that all flights had to start and stop in Nauru with no code share or access to other carriers like Air Pacific or Polynesian meant that commercially they didn't stand a chance. The only time we flew anywhere near full was around Christmas time. The Nauru manager in Saipan was really chuffed to be able to tell the President when he visited that the new service was selling like hot cakes, when the President got back to Nauru he ordered the Saipan office to close!
It was those sort of things that made me realise I didn't really have a future there and I doubt if I would have survived the redundancies in about 1983.
Lovely people, great routes etc. but just not practical from a career point of view.
Best of luck with your new venture.
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You know there are a few of us out there who know that none of this need have happened if some chances were taken. I am sure that we all have some good stories to tell, so ill start with mine.
Here is one deal that fell through that i was invloved with. It was in March last year and things were beginning to get desperate. We knew we had lost the case in court and something had to be done. I personally approached through a contact the Minister of Transport in Kiribati to see if he would be interested in buying half the airline, and sure enough the answer was positive, but on the stipulation that the airline change its name.
I then flew home and told the president what the Kiribati wanted. The Nauruan president did meet the Kiribati but only offered them a share in AIR NAURU. Needles to say the Kiribati government rejected the offer. I remember sitting in the presidents big office thinkiing what has this idiot done. I hope for the islands sake that he had an answer. The interesting thing is that within a day he had met the Taiwanese President in the Marshall Islands who probably offered him the world ie save your plane etc etc if our mission is re opened in Nauru and you kick out those nasty commies form the mainland. The mainland Chinese were gone within a week. Well the plane is gone too Mr President and the Taiwanese dont seem to be coming up with the Lobsters. I suspect that if they need Nauru's vote in the UN etc they will, but for the time being nada! The Taiwanese however have been helpful, but in the airlines case i dont know, maybe they think that after paying the members of parliaments wages for the last year they dont have to help out with the plane.lol Oh thats another sore point with the locals because while they have all had their wages cut to 140dollars a fortnight the MP'S are being paid their old salaries. The salaries the MP's promised they would forgo in order to be one with the people.
Yes thanks blue eagle, okay seventies hey, so i can hold you responsible for inspiring me to get into airlines and flying. Whenever i saw you guys with a polynesian beauty or three hanging around you i knew this was the job for me
I was only about 10 then so i was easily inspired lol
You know Bluey my father was the only guy in parliament who told Hammer as far back as 1972 to stop being an idiotic meglomaniac as it would only turn to doom. Hammer the old c@#ts dead now of course but my father still feels sorry for the island and the people who were led to believe that all the riches could last forever. My dads nickname btw amongst the local people was Doomsday Bobby. He sent his 3 boys to be educated in OZ and amongst 8000 we are probably amongst a handful who can get jobs overseas.
Whatever happens i have told my father that i am never going back to the island, and in a couple of months my brothers and our families will depart the island for good. My family and i are being called traitors by our people and our ex colleagues behind our backs but i could not care less, i am way beyond it. I am looking for a place to live, one like oz where i grew up and allows for people to be what they want to be, and wont be outcast because they speak their mind.
cheers
coco
Here is one deal that fell through that i was invloved with. It was in March last year and things were beginning to get desperate. We knew we had lost the case in court and something had to be done. I personally approached through a contact the Minister of Transport in Kiribati to see if he would be interested in buying half the airline, and sure enough the answer was positive, but on the stipulation that the airline change its name.
I then flew home and told the president what the Kiribati wanted. The Nauruan president did meet the Kiribati but only offered them a share in AIR NAURU. Needles to say the Kiribati government rejected the offer. I remember sitting in the presidents big office thinkiing what has this idiot done. I hope for the islands sake that he had an answer. The interesting thing is that within a day he had met the Taiwanese President in the Marshall Islands who probably offered him the world ie save your plane etc etc if our mission is re opened in Nauru and you kick out those nasty commies form the mainland. The mainland Chinese were gone within a week. Well the plane is gone too Mr President and the Taiwanese dont seem to be coming up with the Lobsters. I suspect that if they need Nauru's vote in the UN etc they will, but for the time being nada! The Taiwanese however have been helpful, but in the airlines case i dont know, maybe they think that after paying the members of parliaments wages for the last year they dont have to help out with the plane.lol Oh thats another sore point with the locals because while they have all had their wages cut to 140dollars a fortnight the MP'S are being paid their old salaries. The salaries the MP's promised they would forgo in order to be one with the people.
Yes thanks blue eagle, okay seventies hey, so i can hold you responsible for inspiring me to get into airlines and flying. Whenever i saw you guys with a polynesian beauty or three hanging around you i knew this was the job for me
I was only about 10 then so i was easily inspired lol You know Bluey my father was the only guy in parliament who told Hammer as far back as 1972 to stop being an idiotic meglomaniac as it would only turn to doom. Hammer the old c@#ts dead now of course but my father still feels sorry for the island and the people who were led to believe that all the riches could last forever. My dads nickname btw amongst the local people was Doomsday Bobby. He sent his 3 boys to be educated in OZ and amongst 8000 we are probably amongst a handful who can get jobs overseas.
Whatever happens i have told my father that i am never going back to the island, and in a couple of months my brothers and our families will depart the island for good. My family and i are being called traitors by our people and our ex colleagues behind our backs but i could not care less, i am way beyond it. I am looking for a place to live, one like oz where i grew up and allows for people to be what they want to be, and wont be outcast because they speak their mind.
cheers
coco
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A grand young crusty ex Air Nauru boy did a check ride for CASA on a recent Air Nauru flight. The question was put to him as to why he left the airline. The FOI replied"..well I left Air Nauru back in '79 because it was about to fall over"....interesting.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Air Nauru is not leaving the building....(fingers crossed, please God,.....please!!!)
Ladies and Gentlemen, Air Nauru is not leaving the building....(fingers crossed, please God,.....please!!!)
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coco-nuts, I wish you well once again with your endeavours. Sometimes we have to accept the inevitable in life; it sounds as though you did all you could. Australia should (though who knows these days?) welcome you with open arms and I hope that is the case. I repeat my earlier offer to raise a glass with you at any time of your choosing; hope it happens. Good luck!
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Sorry Binos mate, with all thats been bottled up ive totally forgotten your offer of a glass of 5 lol. Cheers to you and thanks for all the support. However i dont drink these days but i do partake in that Fijian Muddy Water called Kava. I feel so much better too these days. Amazing lol!
Well i must admit that the expat life is really great for me. I amdoing what i always wanted to, fly and learn different cultures. What can i say i am now a citizen of the world!
cheers
coco
Well i must admit that the expat life is really great for me. I amdoing what i always wanted to, fly and learn different cultures. What can i say i am now a citizen of the world!
cheers
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History-Hammer in 68 asked me to be GM and set up Air Nauru,I was with FJ on the commercial side and had set up FJ ops to Nauru via Tarawa.Polically FJ was a pawn. Hammer offered to buy QF and BA share holdings, It looked like 5 countries could end up owning FJ with no airlines with a stake.QF was never going to sell, BA -maybe- sold to QF in the end. Apart from national interest taking top honours, the big stumbling block was US rights.They wanted extra UK rights for allowing Fiji and Nauru to fly Nauru/Marjero/Tarawa.
May be nuts but I still believe today "we" could have had a great combined
Pacific Airline if the self interest of some countrys had been able to be overcome.
Great times like the Inderpendence ; Asked to help so stayed as no ATC /Parking/Anything-with 5 A/C inbound 2 Hercs, 2 DC 4s and VIP 748 .Sent our FJ 748 to Tawara.Stopped Ist Herc on strip asked them to act as ATC and would they mind letting their tyres down and backing over to the tennis courts where the fencing had been torn down to let the 2 Hercs park side by side off the strip.
TN 4 taxied down the road with full police escort to park in the school yard, QF 4 parked on road with wing over small building. Always stayed at the Virgins Castle. Memorable times.
May be nuts but I still believe today "we" could have had a great combined
Pacific Airline if the self interest of some countrys had been able to be overcome.
Great times like the Inderpendence ; Asked to help so stayed as no ATC /Parking/Anything-with 5 A/C inbound 2 Hercs, 2 DC 4s and VIP 748 .Sent our FJ 748 to Tawara.Stopped Ist Herc on strip asked them to act as ATC and would they mind letting their tyres down and backing over to the tennis courts where the fencing had been torn down to let the 2 Hercs park side by side off the strip.
TN 4 taxied down the road with full police escort to park in the school yard, QF 4 parked on road with wing over small building. Always stayed at the Virgins Castle. Memorable times.
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Le Pilot, sir i am not feeling very tropical because it is about 2 degrees celcius at night at a whopping 15 daily. I miss you heaps mate. 350 planes bought in the last year, you work out the maths. Not enough pilots and worse not enough infrastructure, but what wonderful times itis in India.
Happy New Year to you and yours LP.
Happy New Year to you and yours LP.
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Coco-nuts,
I am relieved to hear you have landed on your feet after having your world turned upside down...
So what youre really saying is you have a thousand new f/a's???
I cant wait to hear about this...
Regards,
TM
I am relieved to hear you have landed on your feet after having your world turned upside down...
So what youre really saying is you have a thousand new f/a's???
I cant wait to hear about this...Regards,
TM
